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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: My statement about the latest flamewar ;-)
From:       mosfet <mosfet () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2001-06-19 6:17:02
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You know better than this. KDE Control Center uses .desktop files to
determine what styles and themes are available. It's funny that
everybody feels free to tell me to move or remove styles, but when I
decide to remove all the optional ones I get people making up
nonexistent "compatibility issues". These are *themes* and *theme
engines*. Nothing more, nothing less. Trying to make it into a
compatibility issue is, like I said, ridiculous.

As far as users getting to use their favorite styles, of course they
will and more! They just won't be included in kdelibs. I'm not keeping
any functionality from the user at all - "taking my toys and going
home". Everything will be made available to users, just not in kdelibs.


Navindra Umanee wrote:
> 
> mosfet <mosfet@mandrakesoft.com> wrote:
> > The user's default desktop is exactly the same. What they will miss is
> > some of the optional themes and styles (and Pixie, but that wasn't my
> > choice). There are a lot of functionality differences between versions,
> > and this does not affect compatibilty. Saying "Missing a theme/style is
> > a compatibility issue" is ridiculous, akin to saying removing a
> > wallpaper is a compatibility issue.
> 
> It's not ridiculous.  A user accustomed to having her nice Laptop
> style with the X button on the Left side, or accustomed to the compact
> BII titlebars, suddenly loses this style and has to learn a completely
> new way of working.  Now *that's* ridiculous.  Ask anyone using
> anything other than the default styles in KDE, and who has updated to
> CVS, if they aren't mighty peeved by now.  Put yourself in your users
> shoes.  Might as well switch to GNOME, eh?
> 
> You already broke at least one app in CVS with your changes. It's not
> a stable or released app, but it's an example.  Are you willing to
> audit all KDE 2.x apps (including any tools that customize KDE, and
> the such) to find out what else will be broken?  I really don't get
> the point.
> 
> If maintenance in CVS is the problem, then I offer my help.  I've been
> wanting to get more involved anyway.  Even if only it means making
> sure that the styles in CVS are stable and/or in sync with the
> versions on your homepage depending on the situation, I'm willing to
> do it.
> 
> -N.

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