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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: System Configure tool
From:       Charles Samuels <charles () kde ! org>
Date:       2001-05-05 18:59:49
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On Saturday 05 May 2001 11:35 am, Andreas Pour wrote:
> David Faure wrote:
> > On Saturday 05 May 2001 16:23, Rob Kaper wrote:
> > > On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 01:17:56AM +0200, Matthias Elter wrote:
> > > > > Sign me up for Slackware.
> > > > >
> > > > > KPP maintains a world-wide database of telecom providers and their
> > > > > rates *and* ISPs and their dail-in settings for crying out loud. If
> > > > > we can maintain that, can't we take care of those few different
> > > > > setups?
> > > >
> > > > Those few different setups? Don't kid yourself.
> > >
> > > Okay, maybe I shouldn't have added that sarcasm. But I still think that
> > > if we can maintain all the KPP stuff, we can also find the people
> > > willing to write distribution specific stuff.
> >
> > This is nonsense, sorry.
> > 1 - ask Harri: maintaining this kppp stuff is a nightmare, and he keeps
> > trying to find a solution for not having to do all this by himself.
> > There was the idea of a webpage where people could upload and download
> > that stuff, but that takes quite some work to setup. Waiting for that,
> > he keeps receiving submissions from people everywhere (the number of
> > "supported" ISPs in kppp is **far** from the real number of different
> > ISPs in the world !), and has to incorporate them by hand into the CVS,
> > which takes time, and is a really boring job.
> > 2 - ISPs and system configuration are two quite different things.
> >
> > I wish there was a way for KDE to configure the system. But for me
> > the best way to do that would be to help distributors / unixes
> > unify the system configuration in the first place.
>
> Hi,
>
[snip]

Andreas, you wrote the great american novel. really :)

But you bring a good point, there's a lot of stuff that is almost entirely 
generic across all platforms (or at least Linuxes)


>
> Hopefully the distributions can get involved in this process.  In fact I
> would like to involve the distros in a discussion of what makes sense to
> do in a "common" way and what does not.
I welcome you to be our PR person :)

>
> The alternative is rather bleak. I don't see how KDE can ever reach a [snip]
And you're right, we make a stand now, or this fragmentation gets worse and 
worse.  Also, if we write this, distributors might be wanting to switch their 
config style to another distribution's, so they won't have to create their 
own settings modules for this.  This, however, is wishful thinking :)


-- 
Charles Samuels <charles@kde.org>
K Desktop Environment
"The people. Could you patent the sun?"
 -- Jonas E. Salk, when asked who owned the patent on his polio vaccine.

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