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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Fragility
From:       Christopher Molnar <molnarc () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2000-09-11 20:17:24
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Carsten Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 08:06:32PM -0100, Uwe Thiem wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > Since I believe that all involved people are honest and accountable,
> > there must be a fundamental difference between these groups they may
> > not be aware of.
> >
> > How do we find out?
> >
> > I'm using more or less vanilla SuSE 6.4 on Intels and SuSE 6.2 on Alphas.
> > KDE is almost unusable.
>
> similar here (6.4 on AMD). Where exactly do you have instabilities? I use
> KDE2 every day (14+ hours) without any problems.

I use kde2 daily, and have on a production machine since March. I have seen a 
lot of improvements, but some regression over the past week as well. However, 
since I am the one adjusting the packages for Mandrake's menu system it is 
expected that I will see some problems, since some of them I probably caused.

I do want to point out, the developers getting bug reports from DR. Konqi 
that contain a versions string something like "1.94 Beta >= 20000911mdk" 
should know that I patch the version string with the CVS date of each code 
update.  (Date is based on Eastern Daylight time currently). These are 
Mandrake rpms and the menu and desktop structure is severely altered. You may 
want to consider letting me have a look at those reports as well. Some are 
really caused by packaging issues which is why I put "mdk" in the version 
string.

As far as stability goes, today is the first time that I have had problems 
with kde crashing and each time it append I was draging the scroll bar in a 
netscape window. Other things was the dissappearing arrow in KMail which is 
really annoying.

Other than those things I think everyone is on the right track. It won't be 
perfect for release, but it doesn't have to be. It is a first release and the 
users already like it. I have heard nothing but good feedback except for a 
few a$$holes who do not like anything anyone does.

- Chris

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