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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: kwin progress - finally !
From:       m_elter () t-online ! de (Matthias Elter)
Date:       2000-06-04 15:25:35
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On Sun, 04 Jun 2000, mosfet wrote:
> Matthias Ettrich wrote:
> > Am Fre, 02 Jun 2000 schrieb Rik Hemsley:
> > > #if Matt Koss
> > >
> > > > Big thanks to the one who finally implemented correct maximizing in
> > > > kwin ( = keeping kicker visible ) .
> > > > This was something that I really missed from 1.1.x.
> > >
> > > Heh, it's been there for weeks but I hid it. Someone else was brave
> > > enough to remove the #ifdef :)
> >
> > While I appreciate your efforts, I'm wondering why you implemented yet
> > another temporary solution?  What's the point in negotiating standards if
> > we don't follow them? With the same effort, you could have implement the
> > NET_WM_STRUT hints instead of your own, and slightly different, AVOID
> > hint.
>
> Erm, perhaps because users have been requesting these things for months
> and the one person on the KDE team actively involved in the WM-SPEC team
> never responds to the requests - much less implements them... :P I
> personally am getting sick of telling users that the feature they want
> is probably covered under the WM-SPEC but no one is implementing it.

IMHO the problem is not that Matthias currently does not seem to have the 
time to implement them but that he does not keep kde-core-devel up to date on 
the status of the WM specs. Matthias: Please send us status updates from time 
to time. Thanks :) 

> > FYI: I'm currently working with Bradly on a complete NET_WM
> > implementation for both KDE and blackbox. If nobody has a very good
> > reason, I will remove the whole "avoid" stuff from kwin again when this
> > is done.
> >
> > Matthias

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