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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: The filedialog, please read
From:       weis <weis () stud ! uni-frankfurt ! de>
Date:       1999-11-04 22:29:07
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Hi,

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 pbrown@redhat.com wrote:

> OK I am not going to quote all the points that have been made and then
> systematically try to win the debate.  :)
> 
> KFileDialog is a nice attempt.  I'm not saying it can't be a great dialog.
> But the simple fact is _right now_, it is _broken_.  And it has been
> broken for _ages_.
> 
> QFileDialog is _not_ broken.
> 
> These are the facts.  Now, if someone is going to fix up KFileDialog to be
> _good_, and before the end of November, then great.   Let's keep it.  But
> let's set some sort of deadline.  If the hacking doesn't get done, no
> finger pointing, no whining, clearly the KDE project doesn't have the
> spare cycles to handle the issue.  And at that point I don't see why using
> QFileDialog is such a bad thing.  Reggie has offered to make it highly
> customizable via sub-classing.  I mean, it's not like we won't have a
> non-KDE programmer working on the frigging dialog.
> 
> I understand everone's concerns that we don't
> want to "toss KDE"
> in order to use all the "Qt Windows-alike" stuff.  But what happened to
> the KDE core rules?  Let me paste them here for reflection:
> 
> Get it done NOW! 
> Focus! 
> Use available tools rather than reinventing existing ones! 
> When making a suggestion, change "we should.." to "I will.."; grandiose
>    plans are useless unless you are willing to put in the work. 
> Improve iteratively. 
> Start with reasonable functionality and configurability and then improve
>    over time. 
> 
> 
> Does it strike anyone that we are getting away from these points more
> these days than ever before?  It does to me.  That will lead to another
> e-mail I have to send in a little while, but let me let this one sink
> in first...

Preston has very good points. Even better ones than I found.
Well written!

Bye
Torben

> ---
>   Preston Brown                                    Systems Engineer
>   pbrown@redhat.com                                Red Hat, Inc. 
> 
> 

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