From kde-core-devel Thu Nov 04 22:29:07 1999 From: weis Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:29:07 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: The filedialog, please read X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=94175460525332 Hi, On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 pbrown@redhat.com wrote: > OK I am not going to quote all the points that have been made and then > systematically try to win the debate. :) > > KFileDialog is a nice attempt. I'm not saying it can't be a great dialog. > But the simple fact is _right now_, it is _broken_. And it has been > broken for _ages_. > > QFileDialog is _not_ broken. > > These are the facts. Now, if someone is going to fix up KFileDialog to be > _good_, and before the end of November, then great. Let's keep it. But > let's set some sort of deadline. If the hacking doesn't get done, no > finger pointing, no whining, clearly the KDE project doesn't have the > spare cycles to handle the issue. And at that point I don't see why using > QFileDialog is such a bad thing. Reggie has offered to make it highly > customizable via sub-classing. I mean, it's not like we won't have a > non-KDE programmer working on the frigging dialog. > > I understand everone's concerns that we don't > want to "toss KDE" > in order to use all the "Qt Windows-alike" stuff. But what happened to > the KDE core rules? Let me paste them here for reflection: > > Get it done NOW! > Focus! > Use available tools rather than reinventing existing ones! > When making a suggestion, change "we should.." to "I will.."; grandiose > plans are useless unless you are willing to put in the work. > Improve iteratively. > Start with reasonable functionality and configurability and then improve > over time. > > > Does it strike anyone that we are getting away from these points more > these days than ever before? It does to me. That will lead to another > e-mail I have to send in a little while, but let me let this one sink > in first... Preston has very good points. Even better ones than I found. Well written! Bye Torben > --- > Preston Brown Systems Engineer > pbrown@redhat.com Red Hat, Inc. > >