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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    RE: More thoughts about embedding
From:       David Faure <David.Faure () CRAMER ! CO ! UK>
Date:       1999-09-30 8:54:39
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> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, David Faure wrote:
> >I think we are mixing issues.
> >
> >(The first part replies especially to Reggie's "embedding 
> doesn't work in
> >koffice anyway")
> >
> >Sure, embedding doesn't work well in koffice currently,
> >but konqueror is the living proof that embedding can work 
> really fine.
> >And you'll notice that it works very well with 'local views'
> >(icon, html, text, ...) and somewhat well with remote views,
> >(kview, ...) but not as well. Why ? Because servers are bad, 
> > I already said that.
> 
> My biggest concern here is not only stableness, but also 
> speed. In konqy you will not have more than a view embedded 
> parts, but in a koffice doc I can imagine 50 embedded parts. 

Yes and no.
konqueror, even at startup, already uses embedding. It uses it
for ANY view you can see in it. In koffice, the native view isn't embedded.
Sure, in a document you can go up to 50 embedded parts if you
want, but AFAIK, even under Windows nobody does it. But
let's not argue on numbers it's pointless.
My main point (and yours, remember) _is_ about stableness.
About slowness, that's where we need to keep working on, and 
I'm pretty sure cuteidl + tinymico + shared libs instead of remote processes
can make a huge difference.

The design of openparts does NOT make embedding broken, otherwise it
wouldn't work in konqueror. But there's something broken in the way koffice
does embedding, and we need to fix it.

--
David Faure
faure@kde.org - KDE developer
david@mandrakesoft.com - Mandrake
david.faure@cramer.co.uk - Cramer Systems

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