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Subject: Re: Requesting feature freeze exemption for Gwenview
From: Kurt Pfeifle <k1pfeifle () gmx ! net>
Date: 2007-09-01 23:13:57
Message-ID: 46D9F235.5000208 () gmx ! net
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Andreas Hartmetz wrote:
> About 30% [+/- 40 %] or so of it work as intended and the source, while
> apparently structured reasonably well, is just a whole lot of code. This is
> why nobody stepped up to fix it, apparently.
No, historically even, printing is the "unwanted, unloved child" on all OS
platforms. Coding a printing system has always been a one-man show (look
at who wrote the old LPR/LPD system, then LPRng, now CUPS...)
There must be a reason why you have quite a few of competing browsers,
dozens
competing music players, video viewers and so on....
Printing is just not "sexy". And once it works, somehow, nobody (new)
touches
it any more. For a long time. Until it becomes so painful again it turns
into
unbearable.
> It looks just too daunting.
> Printing (with all the options and backends) itself is nontrivial, so...
Yes, printing is one of the most complicated day to day tasks one can en-
counter in IT, for every role: user, administrator, ... coder. Wait... for
coders it is not a "day to day" thing. And it *IS* daunting. (That's why
even Microsoft was not able to really fix it in their last 15 years).
> there
> seems to be no way around putting a whole lot of effort into it. And it
> doesn't help that most developers are busy getting their own stuff release
> ready.
> The more obscure parts of KDEPrint didn't even work right in KDE 3, at least
> for me. Double sided printing and so on - good luck... I had to use Acrobat
> Reader and printing to PDF from there to do this.
Funny. Double sided does work reliably, once printing works *at all*.
And it is news to me that it would work better from Acroread than from
any other application.
> So we are, basically, screwed until an experienced developer with enough time
> appears out of the blue.
There will no-one appear from the blue, I bet. Or are you praying for
it?
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Kurt Pfeifle
System & Network Printing Consultant ---- Linux/Unix/Windows/Samba/CUPS
Infotec Deutschland GmbH ..................... Hedelfinger Strasse 58
A RICOH Company ........................... D-70327 Stuttgart/Germany
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