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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: modifier-only shortcuts
From:       Chusslove Illich <caslav.ilic () gmx ! net>
Date:       2006-07-06 20:39:23
Message-ID: 200607062239.24432.caslav.ilic () gmx ! net
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> [: Andriy Rysin :]
> 6) the only suggestion I can do to people right now for KDE3 is to use
> smth like Ctrl+Menu (which I am using myself) or Ctrl+/ which MAY happen
> to be together on your keyboard. The problem is obvious - many keyboards
> either don't have those keys or they are not together.

I myself use RWin only (through a bit trickery with options in Kxkb). 
Incidentally, in Gnome's layout manager I can chose RWin (or any other 
switcher offered by Xkb) without any trickery. I'd fully support the same 
for Kxkb.

Now, for the other folks in this thread:

I didn't expect nearly so much objecting. In fact, I thought that Kxkb is 
not allowing Xkb switchers merely due to some obscure technical obstacle. 
Armchair consistency and all that is fine with me, but one has to take a 
look through window from time to time. Latin-only users (whatever Latin 
is, for that matter) probably cannot feel that the keyboard layout 
switching is such a fundamental action for non-Latin users, that, by all 
means, it deserves special attention.

In my surrounding many people are using some half-ass ASCII transcription 
of our script, because, surprise, they complain it's too obtrusive to 
switch layouts using eg. Alt-Shift. And that's just in ordinary usage -- 
chats, forums... Now imagine one typing markup.

I personally had great experience abandoning Alt+Shift in favor of RWin, as 
I find I can almost not break typing rhythm that way. Now I switch without 
thinking, whenever I want to write the smallest thing in my language 
(whereas most people would revert to ASCII).

If I sound a bit grumpy, among other things that's because I have a small 
doubt that Aaron's idea, of pressing three keys and then selecting layout 
from pop-up list, might not have been just a sarcasm.

-- 
Chusslove Illich (Часлав Илић)

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