From kde-core-devel Thu Jul 06 20:39:23 2006 From: Chusslove Illich Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:39:23 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: modifier-only shortcuts Message-Id: <200607062239.24432.caslav.ilic () gmx ! net> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=115221848915955 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--nextPart1337990.N8r9heeCJ1" --nextPart1337990.N8r9heeCJ1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline > [: Andriy Rysin :] > 6) the only suggestion I can do to people right now for KDE3 is to use > smth like Ctrl+Menu (which I am using myself) or Ctrl+/ which MAY happen > to be together on your keyboard. The problem is obvious - many keyboards > either don't have those keys or they are not together. I myself use RWin only (through a bit trickery with options in Kxkb).=20 Incidentally, in Gnome's layout manager I can chose RWin (or any other=20 switcher offered by Xkb) without any trickery. I'd fully support the same=20 for Kxkb. Now, for the other folks in this thread: I didn't expect nearly so much objecting. In fact, I thought that Kxkb is=20 not allowing Xkb switchers merely due to some obscure technical obstacle.=20 Armchair consistency and all that is fine with me, but one has to take a=20 look through window from time to time. Latin-only users (whatever Latin=20 is, for that matter) probably cannot feel that the keyboard layout=20 switching is such a fundamental action for non-Latin users, that, by all=20 means, it deserves special attention. In my surrounding many people are using some half-ass ASCII transcription=20 of our script, because, surprise, they complain it's too obtrusive to=20 switch layouts using eg. Alt-Shift. And that's just in ordinary usage --=20 chats, forums... Now imagine one typing markup. I personally had great experience abandoning Alt+Shift in favor of RWin, as= =20 I find I can almost not break typing rhythm that way. Now I switch without= =20 thinking, whenever I want to write the smallest thing in my language=20 (whereas most people would revert to ASCII). If I sound a bit grumpy, among other things that's because I have a small=20 doubt that Aaron's idea, of pressing three keys and then selecting layout=20 from pop-up list, might not have been just a sarcasm. =2D-=20 Chusslove Illich (=D0=A7=D0=B0=D1=81=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B2 =D0=98=D0=BB=D0=B8= =D1=9B) --nextPart1337990.N8r9heeCJ1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBErXT8MSGXgigGr3ERAqz/AJ9PH2EZi3k1w5LygNq181GHShPU4QCfXXGH Mp1GU7qdXedxkAwkTnNFwa8= =E7JL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1337990.N8r9heeCJ1--