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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: The Technical Working Group's mission statement
From:       Thiago Macieira <thiago () kde ! org>
Date:       2006-03-14 14:07:37
Message-ID: 200603141507.38190.thiago () kde ! org
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Andras Mantia wrote:
>Was there a real decision somewhere on a public list?

Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>as to 'the procedure' i suppose you are referring to the procedure as to
> how the decision was made? to be honest, i have no idea how the
> decision was made: i skipped 99% of the build system threads because
> they bore me to tears and i trust others have a handle on it (given the
> length of the threads, i should hope so ;).

I thought it was pretty clear to anyone involved in the buildsystem that 
cmake is our only option here. And, just so that it is clear: this was no 
TWG decision. It's a simple situation that stems from fact that cmake is 
being actively worked on and no other system is.

This has been being discussed for many months now in 
kde-buildsystem@kde.org. Sometime ago, we realised that scons wasn't 
going forward at the speed we wanted it to. And we had no support from 
the scons developers. And to top all that, Thomas Nagy, the developer 
working on it, suddenly found himself without the time or Internet 
connection to continue the work.

scons support died then.

Back in aKademy, in Málaga, we decided that we wanted something new, to 
drop autoconf + automake + unsermake + libtool + am_edit. People have 
objections to autoconf syntax; we have real issues using libtool.

So, from the alternatives:
1) stay as it is
2) scons/bksys
3) cmake
two are out.

Is there really any doubt which system we'll use for KDE 4? Add to the 
equation that we need a buildsystem working  *real* *soon*. We can't 
develop KDE if we can't build it.

Unless, of course, we go back on our decision from Málaga and say, "ok, 
we'll keep using autotools for KDE 4.0".

PS: the "procedure" was the removal of Scons files and deprecation of the 
auto* ones.
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4. And æfter se scieppend ingelogode, he wrát "cenn", ac eala! se 
rihtendgesamnung andswarode "cenn: ne wát hú cennan 'eall'. Ástynt."

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