From kde-core-devel Tue Mar 14 14:07:37 2006 From: Thiago Macieira Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:07:37 +0000 To: kde-core-devel Subject: Re: The Technical Working Group's mission statement Message-Id: <200603141507.38190.thiago () kde ! org> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-core-devel&m=114234531206267 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--nextPart1479373.SZkBKJVqRu" --nextPart1479373.SZkBKJVqRu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Andras Mantia wrote: >Was there a real decision somewhere on a public list? Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >as to 'the procedure' i suppose you are referring to the procedure as to > how the decision was made? to be honest, i have no idea how the > decision was made: i skipped 99% of the build system threads because > they bore me to tears and i trust others have a handle on it (given the > length of the threads, i should hope so ;). I thought it was pretty clear to anyone involved in the buildsystem that=20 cmake is our only option here. And, just so that it is clear: this was no=20 TWG decision. It's a simple situation that stems from fact that cmake is=20 being actively worked on and no other system is. This has been being discussed for many months now in=20 kde-buildsystem@kde.org. Sometime ago, we realised that scons wasn't=20 going forward at the speed we wanted it to. And we had no support from=20 the scons developers. And to top all that, Thomas Nagy, the developer=20 working on it, suddenly found himself without the time or Internet=20 connection to continue the work. scons support died then. Back in aKademy, in M=E1laga, we decided that we wanted something new, to=20 drop autoconf + automake + unsermake + libtool + am_edit. People have=20 objections to autoconf syntax; we have real issues using libtool. So, from the alternatives: 1) stay as it is 2) scons/bksys 3) cmake two are out. Is there really any doubt which system we'll use for KDE 4? Add to the=20 equation that we need a buildsystem working *real* *soon*. We can't=20 develop KDE if we can't build it. Unless, of course, we go back on our decision from M=E1laga and say, "ok,=20 we'll keep using autotools for KDE 4.0". PS: the "procedure" was the removal of Scons files and deprecation of the=20 auto* ones. =2D-=20 Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 4. And =E6fter se scieppend ingelogode, he wr=E1t "cenn", ac eala! se=20 rihtendgesamnung andswarode "cenn: ne w=E1t h=FA cennan 'eall'. =C1stynt." --nextPart1479373.SZkBKJVqRu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEFs4qM/XwBW70U1gRAu9xAJ4jETlU1Ak8lfKUYqU8HnXCPzMeAwCfVaOH LSrnrO4fmARnxvw7bSV175E= =Da+q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1479373.SZkBKJVqRu--