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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: The handle arrows in kicker (was kicker applets usability)
From:       Craig Drummond <cpdrummond () freeuk ! com>
Date:       2001-12-12 15:30:03
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> >Well I'd agree with the original poster - they make kicker look
> >cluttered and messey. They should at least be themeable, so that
they
> >can be removed in certain themes.
>
> I'm not sure about that. How do you answer user mails when the arrows
are>  
> there only in some themes? "You can use the context menu to remove
the 
> applet, press the arrow button ... wait, do you use theme X?"

Hmm... OK, maybe that was a bad idea. But I still think the arrows are
messy and horrible.

>
> >After all, you have to right click on icons in kicker to remove them,

> >and there's no arrow icon there. So surely its just as consistent to

> >not have the arrows on applets.
>
> Neither I nor you need the arrows to find the context menu and yes,
it is>  
> inconsitent but you won't believe how many bugs got submitted to bugs.
kde> .org 
> by people who did not find out how to remove applets.
>

Why not have on option in the panel menu to "Remove" as well as "Add"
applets? This is how most users will add an applet - so removeing in
the same way is more consistent, no?

On a related note: How come if I add a menu button to kicker, the arrow
(used to indicate it is a menu) appears on the left - but on toolbar
buttons (such as konqueror's back/forward/up) the arrow appears on the
right? IMHO they should both be to the right.

Also, in my KDE3 (CVS version from about 3 weeks ago) - the arrow for
the K menu is to the left and 1/2 way up (and this is horrible)...

Ciao

Craig.
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