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Subject: Re: request | are you keeping (unsupported) hardware in use by running Plasma?
From: Tomaz Canabrava <tcanabrava () kde ! org>
Date: 2022-12-09 13:50:23
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Hello Joseph,
I yearly buy (or get by donation) old hardware to fix and distribute to my
students, that are from low income households
This year I got six donated laptops that would have been destroyed
otherwise, old hardware from 2005 - 2010, installed plasma and set it up
for school children and IT students.
I would thank publicly the company that donated those to me, codethink.
And because plasma runs well in old hardware, this has been a breeze, I
have been doing this for years and will continue to do so.
Best
On Fri, 9 Dec 2022 at 10:02 Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss <joseph@kde.org>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> as part of the /Blauer Engel 4 FOSS/ project I am currently working on a
> handbook for eco-certifying desktop software, and the issues of
> software-driven hardware obsolescence and the "tsunami of e-waste" are a
> part of it.
>
> And I am wondering: Can the community provide a list of hardware they
> keep out of landfills by running KDE Plasma + their distribution of choice?
>
> Perhaps I can include some of this information in the handbook to
> underscore (again) how Free Software is more sustainable by providing
> *users* the choice of when to retire their hardware.
>
> So, if you have a moment, and you would like to help me make of list of
> hardware KDE continues to keep in use, can you send me the following?
>
> - Distro and desktop environment you use,
> - hardware information (RAM, etc.), and
> - bonus points if you know that other operating systems have
> discontinued support for that hardware (and if possible a link).
>
> Also, feel free to share any stories that may be relevant. For instance,
> I convinced my parents some years ago to switch to GNU/Linux when their
> previous OS was pushing an update that gave them the unfortunate news
> that "This device doesn't meet minimum system requirements...". They did
> not want to buy new hardware since the hardware was still new and worked
> just fine. In fact, I believe the laptops were only 3 years old! I got
> this email from my mom recently, and I quote: "I am glad that I switched
> 95% of the time."
>
> Cheers, and thanks!
>
> Joseph
>
> Some information about e-waste (to be included in the handbook):
>
> - E-waste is considered the "fastest-growing waste stream in the world",
> with 44.7 million metric tons generated in 2016. [1] This is roughly
> equivalent to 4,500 Eiffel towers. [2]
>
> - In 2018, an estimated 50 million metric tons of e-waste was reported,
> motivating the UN to refer to a "tsunami of e-waste rolling out over the
> world". [3]
>
> - The numbers continue to rise: in 2021 an estimated 57 million metric
> tons of e-waste was generated globally, a ~25% increase in just 5 years
> from 2016. [4]
>
> - Less than 20% of e-waste is collected and recycled. [5]
>
> - Although it makes up only 2% of trash in landfills, e-waste
> contributes to almost 70% of the toxic waste there. [6]
>
> [1]
>
> https://www.weforum.org/reports/a-new-circular-vision-for-electronics-time-for-a-global-reboot/
> [2]
>
> https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Climate-Change/Documents/GEM%202017/Global-E-waste%20Monitor%202017%20.pdf
> [3] https://news.un.org/en/story/2015/05/497772
> [4] https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-61350996
> [5] https://weee-forum.org/ws_news/international-e-waste-day-2021/
> [6]
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/vianneyvaute/2019/04/23/with-love-from-an-oregon-prison-how-eric-lundgren-is-going-to-help-you-recycle-all-your-electronics/
>
> --
> Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss
> BE4FOSS Project and Community Manager (KDE Eco)
> OpenPGP: 8FC5 4178 DC44 AD55 08E7 DF57 453E 5746 59A6 C06F
>
> ---
> KDE Eco: Building Energy-Efficient Free Software!
>
> Website: https://eco.kde.org
> Mastodon: @be4foss@floss.social
> Mailing list:
> https://mail.kde.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/energy-efficiency
> Matrix: https://webchat.kde.org/#/room/#energy-efficiency:kde.org
> Forum: https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=334
>
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<div dir="auto">Hello Joseph,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I yearly \
buy (or get by donation) old hardware to fix and distribute to my students, that are \
from low income households</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This year I \
got six donated laptops that would have been destroyed otherwise, old hardware from \
2005 - 2010, installed plasma and set it up for school children and IT \
students.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would thank publicly the \
company that donated those to me, codethink.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">And because plasma runs well in old hardware, this has been a breeze, I \
have been doing this for years and will continue to do so.</div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best</div><div dir="auto"><br><div \
class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 9 Dec 2022 \
at 10:02 Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss <<a \
href="mailto:joseph@kde.org">joseph@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">Hello,<br>
<br>
as part of the /Blauer Engel 4 FOSS/ project I am currently working on a <br>
handbook for eco-certifying desktop software, and the issues of <br>
software-driven hardware obsolescence and the "tsunami of e-waste" are a \
<br> part of it.<br>
<br>
And I am wondering: Can the community provide a list of hardware they <br>
keep out of landfills by running KDE Plasma + their distribution of choice?<br>
<br>
Perhaps I can include some of this information in the handbook to <br>
underscore (again) how Free Software is more sustainable by providing <br>
*users* the choice of when to retire their hardware.<br>
<br>
So, if you have a moment, and you would like to help me make of list of <br>
hardware KDE continues to keep in use, can you send me the following?<br>
<br>
- Distro and desktop environment you use,<br>
- hardware information (RAM, etc.), and<br>
- bonus points if you know that other operating systems have <br>
discontinued support for that hardware (and if possible a link).<br>
<br>
Also, feel free to share any stories that may be relevant. For instance, <br>
I convinced my parents some years ago to switch to GNU/Linux when their <br>
previous OS was pushing an update that gave them the unfortunate news <br>
that "This device doesn't meet minimum system requirements...". They did \
<br> not want to buy new hardware since the hardware was still new and worked <br>
just fine. In fact, I believe the laptops were only 3 years old! I got <br>
this email from my mom recently, and I quote: "I am glad that I switched <br>
95% of the time."<br>
<br>
Cheers, and thanks!<br>
<br>
Joseph<br>
<br>
Some information about e-waste (to be included in the handbook):<br>
<br>
- E-waste is considered the "fastest-growing waste stream in the world", \
<br> with 44.7 million metric tons generated in 2016. [1] This is roughly <br>
equivalent to 4,500 Eiffel towers. [2]<br>
<br>
- In 2018, an estimated 50 million metric tons of e-waste was reported, <br>
motivating the UN to refer to a "tsunami of e-waste rolling out over the <br>
world". [3]<br>
<br>
- The numbers continue to rise: in 2021 an estimated 57 million metric <br>
tons of e-waste was generated globally, a ~25% increase in just 5 years <br>
from 2016. [4]<br>
<br>
- Less than 20% of e-waste is collected and recycled. [5]<br>
<br>
- Although it makes up only 2% of trash in landfills, e-waste <br>
contributes to almost 70% of the toxic waste there. [6]<br>
<br>
[1] <br>
<a href="https://www.weforum.org/reports/a-new-circular-vision-for-electronics-time-for-a-global-reboot/" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.weforum.org/reports/a-new-circular-vision-for-electronics-time-for-a-global-reboot/</a><br>
[2] <br>
<a href="https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Climate-Change/Documents/GEM%202017/Global-E-waste%20Monitor%202017%20.pdf" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Climate-Change/Documents/GEM%202017/Global-E-waste%20Monitor%202017%20.pdf</a><br>
[3] <a href="https://news.un.org/en/story/2015/05/497772" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://news.un.org/en/story/2015/05/497772</a><br> [4] <a \
href="https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-61350996" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-61350996</a><br> [5] <a \
href="https://weee-forum.org/ws_news/international-e-waste-day-2021/" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://weee-forum.org/ws_news/international-e-waste-day-2021/</a><br>
[6] <br>
<a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/vianneyvaute/2019/04/23/with-love-from-an-oregon-prison-how-eric-lundgren-is-going-to-help-you-recycle-all-your-electronics/" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.forbes.com/sites/vianneyvaute/2019/04/23/ \
with-love-from-an-oregon-prison-how-eric-lundgren-is-going-to-help-you-recycle-all-your-electronics/</a><br>
<br>
-- <br>
Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss<br>
BE4FOSS Project and Community Manager (KDE Eco)<br>
OpenPGP: 8FC5 4178 DC44 AD55 08E7 DF57 453E 5746 59A6 C06F<br>
<br>
---<br>
KDE Eco: Building Energy-Efficient Free Software!<br>
<br>
Website: <a href="https://eco.kde.org" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://eco.kde.org</a><br>
Mastodon: @be4foss@floss.social<br>
Mailing list: <br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/energy-efficiency" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/energy-efficiency</a><br>
Matrix: <a href="https://webchat.kde.org/#/room/%23energy-efficiency:kde.org" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://webchat.kde.org/#/room/#energy-efficiency:kde.org</a><br>
Forum: <a href="https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=334" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=334</a><br> \
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