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List:       kde-community
Subject:    Re: This list is now on emergency moderation
From:       Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman () gmail ! com>
Date:       2021-03-25 21:03:40
Message-ID: CACpu0260ioL2DLsp2X9kRn36nLTQkoRaLe27-cTe06pQ=ZpmtQ () mail ! gmail ! com
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Hi Cori, reply inline

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 1:20 PM cori <cori@autistici.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I only subscribed to this list recently because someone pointed out to
> me that a discussion was going on which might interest me. I read some
> of the messages in the discussions about Richard Stallman, and was not
> inclined to participate.
>

Thanks for that. We do welcome your participation, and it is not necessary
to weigh in on every conversation.

>
> However, I do feel I have something to say here, and although I am
> perfectly aware that most probably my email will not be let through, I
> just don't want to keep silent this time.
>
>
> > toxic person
>
> >   * Be considerate
> >   * Be respectful
> >   * Be collaborative
> >   * Be pragmatic
> >   * Support others in the community
>

Point taken. I should have said "controversial person" or not applied a
label at all. Thanks for making that clear.

I don't think calling someone "toxic" is respectful or considerate. In
> my view, it's not collaborative either, since how can there be
> collaboration with the name calling, that may hurt readers' feelings?
> Expressing personal opinions about someone is not pragmatic, either, it
> doesn't add anything constructive to whatever needs to be done. And it
> certainly is not supportive of others in the community.
>
> In sum, I think this messages violates the very same rules of behavior
> it claims to uphold.
>
> Thank you.
>

Thank you for speaking up. I will do better in the future.

Valorie

-- 
http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her

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<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Cori, reply inline</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div \
dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 1:20 PM cori &lt;<a \
href="mailto:cori@autistici.org">cori@autistici.org</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br> <br>
I only subscribed to this list recently because someone pointed out to<br>
me that a discussion was going on which might interest me. I read some<br>
of the messages in the discussions about Richard Stallman, and was not<br>
inclined to participate.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for that. We do \
welcome your participation, and it is not necessary to weigh in on every \
conversation.  </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br>
However, I do feel I have something to say here, and although I am<br>
perfectly aware that most probably my email will not be let through, I<br>
just don&#39;t want to keep silent this time.<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; toxic person <br>
<br>
&gt;     * Be considerate<br>
&gt;     * Be respectful<br>
&gt;     * Be collaborative<br>
&gt;     * Be pragmatic<br>
&gt;     * Support others in the community<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Point \
taken. I should have said &quot;controversial person&quot; or not applied a label at \
all. Thanks for making that clear.  </div><div><br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> I don&#39;t think calling someone \
&quot;toxic&quot; is respectful or considerate. In<br> my view, it&#39;s not \
collaborative either, since how can there be<br> collaboration with the name calling, \
that may hurt readers&#39; feelings?<br> Expressing personal opinions about someone \
is not pragmatic, either, it<br> doesn&#39;t add anything constructive to whatever \
needs to be done. And it<br> certainly is not supportive of others in the \
community.<br> <br>
In sum, I think this messages violates the very same rules of behavior<br>
it claims to uphold.<br>
<br>
Thank you.<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br></div>Thank you for speaking up. I will do better in the \
future.<div><br></div><div>Valorie<br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div \
dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><a \
href="http://about.me/valoriez" target="_blank">http://about.me/valoriez</a>  - \
pronouns: she/her<br></div></div></div></div></div>



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