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List:       kde-community
Subject:    Re: Proposal: Mailing List owner policy
From:       Albert Astals Cid <aacid () kde ! org>
Date:       2020-08-25 21:28:28
Message-ID: 6950339.1UDP6xcGMi () xps
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El dijous, 23 de juliol de 2020, a les 0:31:29 CEST, Albert Astals Cid va escriure:
> Dear Community,
> 
> One important part of mailing lists being healthy is owners/moderators[1].
> 
> They moderate the lists, they help users that want to subscribe/unsubscribe but \
> don't know how to, they enact emergency moderation in the very very seldom case \
> that it is needed, etc. 
> So to keep our mailing lists healthy we need to be sure to have healthy list \
> owners. 
> In plural, more than one, because from time to time, we go on vacation and the list \
> duties still need taking care of. 
> For that I'd like to enact this policy:
> 	
> Mailing lists should have at least 2 active owners, ideally 3 [Obviously exceptions \
> apply, like if we just started a mailing list to coordinate translators for a \
> language that has no translation in KDE yet, we'd probably have no way to get 2 \
> list owners] 
> One keyword in that sentence is "active".
> 
> Mailing list ownership/moderation un-activity is hard to detect.
> 
> One way to potentially detect it, is by those summaries that sysadmin sends \
> periodically for lists with lots of mails to moderate, but that doesn't cover all \
> the cases. 
> For example, it's possible that a mailing list has 2 owners and only one of them is \
> inactive, since the other one is keeping the list in working condition we don't see \
> it as a problem, but if that person goes on holiday, then it suddenly is. 
> For that I'd like to enact this policy sub-point:
> 
> Mailing list owners will be contacted every year asking if they are still active \
> and if they want to continue being list owner or if they'd prefer we find a \
> substitute. 
> If they say "please find a substitute" or fail to answer in a given time frame (I'd \
> say a month is fair), they will be removed as owners and in case the "at least 2 \
> active owners, ideally 3" policy is broken we'll find a new person. 
> Does that sound something like we could agree on?
> 
> Then the big question is "who will do this work?" Because it seems quite a bit of \
> work (albeit only once a year). I would suggest the Community Working Group does \
> this, as it's a way to keep our community healthy, but i understand it's quite some \
> work, so i volunteer to do it if the CWG doesn't feel this is a task they want to \
> take on.  
> Things I'm missing?
> 
> Improvement suggestions?

So it seems there was some agreement that is something that could improve but we \
didn't 100% agree on what to do. I've scheduled an Akademy BoF, hopefully we can \
reach to a conclusion there.

https://community.kde.org/Akademy/2020/Tuesday#Room_02_-_8th_September

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> Cheers,
> Albert
> 
> [1] yes, i know they are not the same, but since one is a subset of the other, \
> let's pretend they are. 
> 
> 


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