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Subject: Re: Please don't make planet.kde.org into a politics feed
From: Laszlo Papp <lpapp () kde ! org>
Date: 2019-12-05 12:33:28
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 12:28 PM Christian Loosli <kde@fuchsnet.ch> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:24:30 CET schrieb Eike Hein:
> > But they don't, so your calculation is about solving a problem that
> doesn't
> > currently exist.
>
> I consider that a tricky argument that leads to a slippery slope, because
> whenever people will at political stuff, it will be "but the other person
> was
> allowed, too!", so in my opinion it's a matter of fairness.
>
Yes, absolutely. I understood and appreciated that this discussion is about
a long-term sustainable goal. It is not just a strategy for today just as
the KDE manifesto is for a long-term and sustainable vision.
Besides that, brexit has divided nations, families, friends, relationships,
and the world at large into a very depressive state. It is just not what I
also want to flow from the planet KDE tap. So, I find it hard to comprehend
and read that nothing has changed. With the referendum, things have changed
big times, more than ever as far as recent UK times are concerned.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Eike
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Christian
>
> > On December 5, 2019 1:21:08 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli <
> kde@fuchsnet.ch>
> wrote:
> > >For me it's a rather simple calculation: if every contributor on planet
> > >would
> > >post as many articles on politics as e.g. you do, the planet would be
> > >simply
> > >overcrowded with it.
> > >
> > >Given we already have filters for languages, maybe there could be a
> > >filter for
> > >non-KDE stuff, so that people who to go planet.kde to read about, well,
> > >KDE,
> > >could filter all that stuff out.
> > >
> > >Kind regards,
> > >
> > >Christian
> > >
> > >Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:04:35 CET schrieb Jonathan Riddell:
> > >> Planet KDE exists to allow KDE people to share information about
> > >
> > >themselves
> > >
> > >> as well as their KDE contributions. A hard Brexit will affect KDE
> > >> significantly which is why I include it here. The idea that talking
> > >
> > >about
> > >
> > >> politics is dangerous or anti-social really scares me and is one
> > >
> > >reason why
> > >
> > >> the populists have taken over so much of the political discussion
> > >> currently. I often get people thanking me for my political opinion
> > >
> > >blogs.
> > >
> > >> If you don't want to read it then don't read it.
> > >>
> > >> The rule we came up with is "The majority of content in your blog
> > >
> > >should be
> > >
> > >> about KDE and your work on KDE. Blog posts about personal subjects
> > >
> > >are also
> > >
> > >> encouraged since Planet KDE is a chance to learn more about the
> > >
> > >developers
> > >
> > >> behind KDE." I've never heard anyone suggest changes to that rule.
> > >>
> > >> Jonathan
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 11:53, Christian Loosli <kde@fuchsnet.ch>
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >> > Dear Community,
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm 100% sure this topic came up in the past due to the same blog,
> > >
> > >but I
> > >
> > >> > can't
> > >> > find it on the mailing list, so I assume it happened on forums or
> > >
> > >chat:
> > >> > currently the top blog post on planet.kde.org is about voting for a
> > >> > specific
> > >> > political party. I understand that in these times there are many
> > >
> > >countries
> > >
> > >> > with heated and important political debates, and some very
> > >
> > >important
> > >
> > >> > global
> > >> > topics as well. However, these already occupy all the news site.
> > >> > Now if every blog appearing on the planet would target a political
> > >
> > >subject
> > >
> > >> > that is very important to the blogger, planet.kde.org would be yet
> > >> > another
> > >> > political news/opinions feed.
> > >> >
> > >> > If I want politics, I go to one of these. If I want to read about
> > >
> > >KDE, I
> > >
> > >> > go to
> > >> > planet.kde.org.
> > >> >
> > >> > Please dear bloggers: there are categories, and you can choose
> > >
> > >which of
> > >
> > >> > your
> > >> > blogs do show up on the planet. I know that some topics are very
> > >
> > >important
> > >
> > >> > to
> > >> > you and obviously you are free to blog about them, but please keep
> > >
> > >the
> > >
> > >> > planet.kde.org feed free of it, so it doesn't become a mess where
> > >
> > >it's
> > >
> > >> > hard to
> > >> > find the content people actually go there for.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks and kind regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > Christian
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 12:28 PM Christian Loosli <<a \
href="mailto:kde@fuchsnet.ch">kde@fuchsnet.ch</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:24:30 CET \
schrieb Eike Hein:<br> > But they don't, so your calculation is about solving \
a problem that doesn't<br> > currently exist.<br>
<br>
I consider that a tricky argument that leads to a slippery slope, because <br>
whenever people will at political stuff, it will be "but the other person was \
<br> allowed, too!", so in my opinion it's a matter of fairness. \
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, absolutely. I understood and appreciated \
that this discussion is about a long-term sustainable goal. It is not just a strategy \
for today just as the KDE manifesto is for a long-term and sustainable \
vision.</div><div><br></div><div>Besides that, brexit has divided nations, families, \
friends, relationships, and the world at large into a very depressive state. It is \
just not what I also want to flow from the planet KDE tap. So, I find it hard to \
comprehend and read that nothing has changed. With the referendum, things have \
changed big times, more than ever as far as recent UK times are concerned.</div><div> \
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px \
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Eike<br>
<br>
Kind regards, <br>
<br>
Christian <br>
<br>
> On December 5, 2019 1:21:08 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli <<a \
href="mailto:kde@fuchsnet.ch" target="_blank">kde@fuchsnet.ch</a>> <br> wrote:<br>
> >For me it's a rather simple calculation: if every contributor on \
planet<br> > >would<br>
> >post as many articles on politics as e.g. you do, the planet would be<br>
> >simply<br>
> >overcrowded with it.<br>
> ><br>
> >Given we already have filters for languages, maybe there could be a<br>
> >filter for<br>
> >non-KDE stuff, so that people who to go planet.kde to read about, well,<br>
> >KDE,<br>
> >could filter all that stuff out.<br>
> ><br>
> >Kind regards,<br>
> ><br>
> >Christian<br>
> ><br>
> >Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:04:35 CET schrieb Jonathan Riddell:<br>
> >> Planet KDE exists to allow KDE people to share information about<br>
> ><br>
> >themselves<br>
> ><br>
> >> as well as their KDE contributions. A hard Brexit will affect KDE<br>
> >> significantly which is why I include it here. The idea that \
talking<br> > ><br>
> >about<br>
> ><br>
> >> politics is dangerous or anti-social really scares me and is one<br>
> ><br>
> >reason why<br>
> ><br>
> >> the populists have taken over so much of the political discussion<br>
> >> currently. I often get people thanking me for my political opinion<br>
> ><br>
> >blogs.<br>
> ><br>
> >> If you don't want to read it then don't read it.<br>
> >> <br>
> >> The rule we came up with is "The majority of content in your \
blog<br> > ><br>
> >should be<br>
> ><br>
> >> about KDE and your work on KDE. Blog posts about personal subjects<br>
> ><br>
> >are also<br>
> ><br>
> >> encouraged since Planet KDE is a chance to learn more about the<br>
> ><br>
> >developers<br>
> ><br>
> >> behind KDE." I've never heard anyone suggest changes to that \
rule.<br> > >> <br>
> >> Jonathan<br>
> >> <br>
> >> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 11:53, Christian Loosli <<a \
href="mailto:kde@fuchsnet.ch" target="_blank">kde@fuchsnet.ch</a>><br> > \
><br> > >wrote:<br>
> >> > Dear Community,<br>
> >> > <br>
> >> > I'm 100% sure this topic came up in the past due to the same \
blog,<br> > ><br>
> >but I<br>
> ><br>
> >> > can't<br>
> >> > find it on the mailing list, so I assume it happened on forums \
or<br> > ><br>
> >chat:<br>
> >> > currently the top blog post on <a href="http://planet.kde.org" \
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">planet.kde.org</a> is about voting for a<br> > \
>> > specific<br> > >> > political party. I understand that in \
these times there are many<br> > ><br>
> >countries<br>
> ><br>
> >> > with heated and important political debates, and some very<br>
> ><br>
> >important<br>
> ><br>
> >> > global<br>
> >> > topics as well. However, these already occupy all the news \
site.<br> > >> > Now if every blog appearing on the planet would target a \
political<br> > ><br>
> >subject<br>
> ><br>
> >> > that is very important to the blogger, <a \
href="http://planet.kde.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">planet.kde.org</a> \
would be yet<br> > >> > another<br>
> >> > political news/opinions feed.<br>
> >> > <br>
> >> > If I want politics, I go to one of these. If I want to read \
about<br> > ><br>
> >KDE, I<br>
> ><br>
> >> > go to<br>
> >> > <a href="http://planet.kde.org" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">planet.kde.org</a>.<br> > >> > <br>
> >> > Please dear bloggers: there are categories, and you can choose<br>
> ><br>
> >which of<br>
> ><br>
> >> > your<br>
> >> > blogs do show up on the planet. I know that some topics are \
very<br> > ><br>
> >important<br>
> ><br>
> >> > to<br>
> >> > you and obviously you are free to blog about them, but please \
keep<br> > ><br>
> >the<br>
> ><br>
> >> > <a href="http://planet.kde.org" rel="noreferrer" \
target="_blank">planet.kde.org</a> feed free of it, so it doesn't become a mess \
where<br> > ><br>
> >it's<br>
> ><br>
> >> > hard to<br>
> >> > find the content people actually go there for.<br>
> >> > <br>
> >> > Thanks and kind regards,<br>
> >> > <br>
> >> > Christian<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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