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Subject: Re: Discourse
From: David Wright <david.wright12886 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2018-10-29 21:04:46
Message-ID: CAAQdH4AjrhnVxDput7qm-FODXkWZOX=McmMKuTwf0Qtdca_n8A () mail ! gmail ! com
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Why not use bbpress / buddypress as the main websites are now powered by
WordPress I believe? You can import too:
https://codex.bbpress.org/getting-started/importing-data/import-forums/
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, 20:56 Luca Beltrame, <lbeltrame@kde.org> wrote:
> Il giorno Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:31:54 +0000
> Jonathan Riddell <jr@jriddell.org> ha
> scritto:
> > contributors not wanting to get into them. Our KDE Forums also look
> > quite old school. In Fedora they moved to Discourse and mailing
> > lists and forums and saw a marked increase in engagement.
>
> "Old school" because few people are willing (if any) to put up with
> maintenance. This has been going for quite a while, unfortunately.
>
> I have my fair share of issues with Discourse (I run into it daily when
> checking the support forum of my router):
>
> - As far as I remember, they *only* supported deployment with Docker.
> This is is IMO a terrible and black-magic approach
> - It uses (used to use?) PostgreSQL as database, for which Sysadmin
> isn't really keen on using unless absolutely necessary
> - The UX is not as best as it looks, hijacks stuff like the back button
> on the browser and what not
> - The "app" on mobile is a joke, basically a web view of the mobile page
>
> > I think KDE should consider moving away from mailman and onto
>
> Does Discourse have a mail interface to avoid breaking user workflows?
> How should a migration be handled? Don't forget we'll lose distributed
> archiving of the mailing lists as well (very useful).
>
> > Discourse and at the same time forum.kde.org could move to this more
>
> What about the old posts? Did anyone consider a migration? We don't want
> to lose old content, after all.
>
> Also, don't forget that "should", to quote a seminar I was at recently,
> should become "I/we/they will". If no one is willing to put support
> with the (aged! I'm not saying it's perfect) forum infrastructure why
> do you think one would put up with the new?
>
>
>
>
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class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, 20:56 Luca Beltrame, <<a \
href="mailto:lbeltrame@kde.org">lbeltrame@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">Il giorno Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:31:54 +0000<br> Jonathan \
Riddell <<a href="mailto:jr@jriddell.org" target="_blank" \
rel="noreferrer">jr@jriddell.org</a>> ha<br> scritto:<br>
> contributors not wanting to get into them. Our KDE Forums also look<br>
> quite old school. In Fedora they moved to Discourse and mailing<br>
> lists and forums and saw a marked increase in engagement. <br>
<br>
"Old school" because few people are willing (if any) to put up with<br>
maintenance. This has been going for quite a while, unfortunately.<br>
<br>
I have my fair share of issues with Discourse (I run into it daily when<br>
checking the support forum of my router):<br>
<br>
- As far as I remember, they *only* supported deployment with Docker.<br>
This is is IMO a terrible and black-magic approach<br>
- It uses (used to use?) PostgreSQL as database, for which Sysadmin<br>
isn't really keen on using unless absolutely necessary<br>
- The UX is not as best as it looks, hijacks stuff like the back button<br>
on the browser and what not<br>
- The "app" on mobile is a joke, basically a web view of the mobile \
page<br> <br>
> I think KDE should consider moving away from mailman and onto<br>
<br>
Does Discourse have a mail interface to avoid breaking user workflows?<br>
How should a migration be handled? Don't forget we'll lose distributed<br>
archiving of the mailing lists as well (very useful).<br>
<br>
> Discourse and at the same time <a href="http://forum.kde.org" rel="noreferrer \
noreferrer" target="_blank">forum.kde.org</a> could move to this more<br> <br>
What about the old posts? Did anyone consider a migration? We don't want<br>
to lose old content, after all.<br>
<br>
Also, don't forget that "should", to quote a seminar I was at \
recently,<br> should become "I/we/they will". If no one is willing to put \
support<br> with the (aged! I'm not saying it's perfect) forum infrastructure \
why<br> do you think one would put up with the new?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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