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List:       kde-community
Subject:    Re: Telemetry Policy
From:       Mirko Boehm - KDE <mirko () kde ! org>
Date:       2017-08-17 15:38:52
Message-ID: B95D7D2A-23A9-4245-AAC0-8A3FAE330090 () kde ! org
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Hi,

> On 17. Aug 2017, at 01:46, Thomas Pfeiffer <thomas.pfeiffer@kde.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Valorie,
> Even if opt-out for some data is legally and even morally fine, it does not
> align with the values we communicate to our users:
> Unlike Mozilla's Mission, our Vision mentions privacy explicitly, and we're
> striving to make privacy our USP.

We seem to assume a contradiction between telemetry and privacy. I believe this is a \
knee-jerk reaction. We can implement telemetry in a way that privacy is not violated. \
In fact, I would say that it follows from our vision that we should do this.

Cheers,

Mirko.
--
Mirko Boehm | mirko@kde.org | KDE e.V.
FSFE Fellowship Representative, FSFE Team Germany
Qt Certified Specialist and Trainer
Request a meeting: https://doodle.com/mirkoboehm


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class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17. Aug 2017, at \
01:46, Thomas Pfeiffer &lt;<a href="mailto:thomas.pfeiffer@kde.org" \
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Valorie,</span><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: \
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class="">Even if opt-out for some data is legally and even morally fine, it does \
not<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br style="font-family: \
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display: inline !important;" class="">align with the values we communicate to our \
users:</span><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: \
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; \
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class="">Unlike Mozilla's Mission, our Vision mentions privacy explicitly, and \
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class=""></div><div>We seem to assume a contradiction between telemetry and privacy. \
I believe this is a knee-jerk reaction. We can implement telemetry in a way that \
privacy is not violated. In fact, I would say that it follows from our vision that we \
should do this.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br \
class=""></div><div>Mirko.</div><div class=""> <div style="orphans: auto; text-align: \
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class="">Mirko Boehm | <a href="mailto:mirko@kde.org" class="">mirko@kde.org</a> | \
KDE e.V.<br class="">FSFE Fellowship Representative, FSFE Team Germany<br class="">Qt \
Certified Specialist and Trainer<br class="">Request a meeting: <a \
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