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List:       kde-commits
Subject:    Re: kdelibs/kstyles/b2plugin
From:       mosfet <mosfet () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2000-03-26 21:36:23
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Torsten Rahn wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > more functional? in which way?
> > Well, mine has the dual bottom buttons and it doesn't contrast heavily
> > with the rest of the widgets. I think that is what he was referring to.
> 
> To me this is a nice contrast which makes it easier to distinguish the
> buttons from the rest of the buttons.
> The 3rd button is redundant imo and makes the scrollbar look more
> complicated than necessary.
> 

I'm not going to use the dark color scheme for the slider and for
nothing else. That's just bad design. The third button has been
complimented on by many users so evidently some people find it useful.
Be has 4 ;-)

> > The old scrollbars looked *nothing* like Windows or Motif. The bevels in
> > the slider were based on BeOS but that's it. If the old way looked
> 
> Sorry to tell you but the only thing that won't look in any way different from
> windows are your childish-fat-looking arrows. If you would
> replace these arrows with the original ones and if you would ask your ma,
> your dad or any one who hasn't followed this discussion where they saw these
> arrow-buttons and scrollbars the last time they won't say BeOS -- They
> will say Windows!
> 
> I know that you changed quite a lot of pixel here and there -- but this will
> neither make an original look nor is it consistent
> with the rest of the widgets nor will it look different to most people.
>

The B2 scrollbars were never coded to look like Windows and look nothing
like them. It's not a pixel change here and there, the look and routine
are entirely different. 

I find this argument heavily ironic from you anyways, since just last
week you yelled at me for not wanting to use Windows style arrow buttons
and said I should use whatever is the most usable which in your opinion
was the Windows buttons ;-)
 
> > The default KDE interface for me isn't about trying to fill
> > all the blank space with decorations, it's about trying to make the
> > clearest and least obtrusive user interface as possible.
> 
> The clearest Widget with no decorations at all which shows the best
> contrast is --- tadaaa! Windows (and don't badmouth me that I would
> have said "I want windows to be the default!", please).
>

No, MacOS Platinum and BeOS - both which do use decorations but do so in
a sublime fashion, not in a matter that distracts the user.  

> Tackat
> 
> >

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Daniel M. Duley - Unix developer & sys admin.
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