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List:       kde-commits
Subject:    Re: kdebase/kcontrol/kcontrol
From:       Frans Englich <frans.englich () telia ! com>
Date:       2004-12-04 21:07:36
Message-ID: 200412042107.36244.frans.englich () telia ! com
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On Saturday 04 December 2004 17:52, Daniel Molkentin wrote:
> Am Samstag, 4. Dezember 2004 16:17 schrieb Frans Englich:
> > On Saturday 04 December 2004 09:33, Matthias Kretz wrote:
> > > I have to guess y'all didn't read that mail to core-devel... Frans
> > > wrote about removing kcmshell from kdebase BUT adding a new version
> > > making better use of the KCM code in kdelibs/kutils to kdelibs (which
> > > he commited to HEAD before disabling kcmshell in kdebase).
>
> No, and I think I should. I haven't read a mail that mentions this. Please
> CC me the next time.
>
> > > I don't see the problem you're talking about. And if there was
> > > miscommunication it probably was that Frans' email was so long that
> > > nobody took the time to read it completely ;-)
> >
> > Damn, I must learn to write better. Other than, is this thread pretty
> > amusing :))
> >
> > Some details, such that it's not mistaken:
> >
> > * Yes, kcmshell is in kdelibs now, it's not removed. Its behavior is
> > backwards compatible, so there should be no problem.
>
> Great. I will try to find some time to look into the changes you did.

Most of it is not very much related to KControl, that's probably why I missed 
mailing you; the core is libkutils, and Matthias have reviewed most of it. 
kcmshell is pretty similar to before, except that it uses libkutils for the 
grunt work instead of kcontrol's classes.

>
> > * Daniel, I'm aware of the "no KControl changes before KDE 4" idea and I
> > think it's good. KControl haven't been changed in any visible way, and
> > the code haven't been touched, except disabling parts. Currently,
> > KControl duplicates functionality of kdelibs/kutils, and we can change
> > that in KDE 4.
>
> I hope KDE 4 final won't see a KControl as we know it today, depending what
> the output of the KDE KLink Labs (tm) is :)

Hehe, that's an amusing topic. There was some insane discussions on 
kde-usability, I can fetch links if of interest. I wish the KControl-search 
approach, as previously proposed by the link team, all the best. It should at 
least be a lot easier with the latest library changes.

>
> > If of interest, here it is again(start with a cup of coffee):
>
> Please accept my apology, I wrote my rant without having a coffee first...

Well, I understand. Ok, I did mail on kde-core-devel, several other people 
knew about it, and you've not been very active, but you should have received 
an explicit note nevertheless.


Cheers,

		Frans



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