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List:       kde-commits
Subject:    Re: kdenetwork/kit
From:       Neil Stevens <neil () qualityassistant ! com>
Date:       2002-12-24 7:50:39
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On Monday December 23, 2002 11:05, Jason Katz-Brown wrote:
> CVS commit by katz:
>
> Mail to neil about this:
>
> Heya!
>
> I finished my KDE 3.1 install and noticed no Kit changes when I updated.
> So I installed Kit HEAD and noticed the new layout of the message
> window. I made two changes - move color buttons to their own vertical
> layout, and add a small border around the bottom section - don't you
> agree the lack of border around the buttons and edit was a little sore
> to the eye? In some ways however I see how you could say that it's
> against KDE standards, especially making the border marginHint() / 2.
> However, I argue that that main window is pretty much half dialog and
> half main window, so the margin should be in between :-)

Well, standards exist to be followed.  If everyone makes an exception for 
themeselves, then it's no longer a standard.

> Perhaps you should remove/correct the changes I made to Kit in HEAD
> (tmessage.cpp around line 211).

I'll look at them, and think about it. :-)

> Is Kit going to be replaced in 3.2? 4.0? By light hawk? needing to run
> my own jabber server however doesn't sound like a very easy upgrade path
> though :-/

Well, no, no reasonable upgrade path can exist when you use a centralized 
service such as AIM.  Client-side or server-side hacks do nothing to the 
inescapable fact that your use of AIM is entirely dependent on AOL's 
service.

The best, most sustainable upgrade path is one where you yourself begin to 
move away from centralized services and toward Jabber.  (Yeah yeah, you 
like me are waiting on a client to use for that.  Look for Light Hawk 0.1 
in the next 8 days, guaranteed)

> PS. I actually got yelled at by the aol servers for signing on too often
> while testing the message window, so i couldn't test my final change,

Heh.. that's what test accounts are for. :-)

- -- 
Neil Stevens - neil@qualityassistant.com
"The nearest I can make it out, 'Love your Enemies' means, 'Hate your
Friends'." - Benjamin Franklin
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