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List:       kde-artists
Subject:    Re: [kde-artists] Bug 163311
From:       Jakob Petsovits <jpetso () gmx ! at>
Date:       2008-06-29 9:04:54
Message-ID: 200806291104.55421.jpetso () gmx ! at
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On Sunday 29 June 2008, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> So, "pinheiro" doesn't want my help with artwork.  And the Oxygen group 
> needs some technical help.  It is impossible to work with "jpetso".

Yeah, I might be hard to work with. That's because I care if important stuff 
breaks in a way that I don't find acceptable.

> Every issue I found while working on the renaming of the old icons and 
> bring up, he argues against my ideas but there is no resolution of any 
> of the issues -- odd how nothing was done till I brought the issues up.

Ok, sure, I might not be the most productive guy around. (As opposed to 
pinheiro, who artworks his ass off and gets critizised for it much more often 
than I am.) You don't have to look far to find people working on stuff a lot 
more than I do on Oxygen.

Still, I believe that no solution is still better than a bad solution, as the 
"no solution" part can be fixed anytime someone comes up with a good solution, 
whereas the "bad solution" part sticks for a long time and causes 
maintainability issues.

If I argue against your opinions then it's because I think the current state 
is better than the solution that you propose. Don't take it personally, 
either, I'm just as well trying to help KDE as I think is best for it.

>   So, I have given up on the renaming of the old icons.  It is clear 
> that there is a "Help NOT Wanted" sign here and it doesn't just apply to 
> me.  So, I guess I will give up on artwork.

I think you won't. You have not given up when people were all pissed off on 
the hicolor "theme vs. namespace" discussion, you have not given up even after 
you announced that health related issue, and you care deeply about this stuff.

Personally, yeah, I consider you the only "poisonous developer" I ever 
encountered. And yeah, kde-artists would be a more peaceful place if you give 
up on artwork. But that's just my personal opinion, and I do recognize that 
the work you're doing is valuable too. So although I'd indeed rather see you 
leaving, it's not up to me to say that you should do so. I chime in with 
pinheiro's "help wanted, but not from you" but if you choose to stay then 
that's just the way it goes.

In that case, I might be the one to give up on artwork.

Regards,
  Jakob

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