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List:       kde-artists
Subject:    Re: [kde-artists] Crystal Clear release!
From:       Luciano Montanaro <mikelima () gmail ! com>
Date:       2005-06-23 14:26:18
Message-ID: 200506231626.19001.mikelima () gmail ! com
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El Jueves 23 Junio 2005 11:57, Anne-Marie Mahfouf escribió:
> On June 23, 2005 12:40 pm, Luke-Jr wrote:
> > On Thursday 23 June 2005 12:22, Rainer Endres wrote:
> > > On Thursday 23 June 2005 10:37, Luciano Montanaro wrote:
> > > > El Miércoles 22 Junio 2005 23:01, Jonathan Riddell escribió:
> > > > So, there is no need for Everaldo to release anything he does not
> > > > care to share, and there is no problem at all with the licensing.
> > >
> > > When he choose LGPL he had to stick to the license.
> >
> > No, when he chose LGPL, you and I have to stick to the license, not
> > him.
>
> yes and we are asking (he was asked) for the source so we can modify the
> source and redistribute the modified icons LGPL.
> I think the LGPL says that if we ask for the sources, he MUST give them.
> No?

Asking is one thing; demanding is another. If you (we) do not agree on the 
license, or the licensed material, you can simply avoid using it.

My question is: do we want contributions and collaboration? If this is the 
case, being a bit more diplomatic would go much farther than demanding 
things. Because, if the license is invalid, Everaldo does not violate any 
contract, but the users would not be legally able to use the files.

The real problem is that the GPL and LGPL licenses are meant for programs, 
and graphics files are not dealt with at all.

>
> If someone says: my work is LGPL and when asked for the source he does
> not disclose it, then the LGPL is breached.
>
> (I am meeting Stallman soon and I can clear all misunderstanding so it'll
> be ... crystal clear)
>

This is good, I'd like for a clearer answer as well.
But maybe, there are other viable licenses, and he may advise on them too. 
What about creative common licenses?

Luciano
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