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Subject:    Re: [kde-artists] Recent crystalsvg  and some older changes
From:       Frank Karlitschek <karlitschek () kde ! org>
Date:       2005-03-31 16:37:29
Message-ID: 200503311837.29674.karlitschek () kde ! org
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Hi,

in nearly every review of KDE, people complain that KDE is much to colourfull, 
teletubby like and childish. We try to make KDE look more professional and 
decent. This is needed if we want to attract more corporate users. 

We keep the colorfull crystal look for most of the icons. But the action icons 
and especially the 16x16 ones in the menus should be a bit more unobtrusive 
and simpler. I don't think that we need 16 million colors in 16x16 pixels for 
a good looking desktop.

Please compare the 16x16 icons with icons in other desktops. For example
in OS X. You see that simpler icons can still look good and are better for 
usability and accessibility.

We don't overwrite Crystal! KDE is using the CrystalSVG theme which is 
different from to original Crystal theme from Everaldo.
Crystal is incomplete and didn't contain the SVG files of the icons. We asked 
Everaldo several times for the SVGs and never get the files.

That's the reason why I and other worked for the last two years on fixing most 
of the problems in the CrystalSVG theme. I think I fixed over 200 icons in 
all KDE modules. I never got any icons or help from Everaldo.


Cheers
Frank


On Thursday 31 March 2005 14:29, qwertz wrote:
> > Although I cannot give you explanation of why they were made I can tell
> > you that we are working on changing this. The home and
> > recycle icons are much better in your version becuase they stand out
> > more. Unfortunately your version wouldn't work when the icons are shown
> > at the standard size. Everaldos icons were never made for small sizes.
>
> I have too disagree. They work in all sizes.
> http://ktown.kde.org/~qwertz/Image13852.PNG
> I really cant see why they were changed.
>
> > >  I support changes as long as they are true improvements.
> > > But I fail to see how the current versions are an improvement over the
> > > original everaldo theme.(http://www.linuxcult.com/forum/crystal.php)
> > > Therefore I'd rather stay with those until a better solution is found.
> >
> > Actually I would like to start working on a new theme to replace
> > crystal. If we reverted to Everaldos old set we would once again be
> > missing lots of icons, not to mention pretty much all the small ones are
> > useless.
>
> I am not talking about removing new icons.I am talking about reinventing
> the wheel.
> Replacing very good icons with not so good ones:)
>
> > We are working on including many of the actions in 2D form but that
> > does not mean that they have to all be grey. Reducing the complexity of
> > these icons is not only a visual matter but also one of usability.
>
> The new icons do not look anything like crystalsvg.
> How about creating a new theme with a new name?
> Please dont overwrite Crystal.People expect a specific look behind that
> name and they should get it.
>
> > Bye,
> > Ken
> > --
> > SUSE LINUX - a Novell business
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > Scheinbare Rechtschreibfehler beruhen auf einer individuellen
> > Rechtschreibreform
>
> qwertz
>
>
>
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