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List:       kde-artists
Subject:    Re: K-ARTIST: HiColor Icons
From:       Kenneth Wimer <wimer () suse ! de>
Date:       2004-10-21 21:59:14
Message-ID: 20041021215914.GB28951 () suse ! de
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* James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj@acm.org> [Oct 21. 2004 23:38]:
> Frans Englich wrote:
> 
> >/Every/ application should install an application icon into hicolor, such 
> >that its icon is available for all themes, crystalsvg or not. If there's 
> >then a crystalsvg icon too, it should be in kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg, and 
> >subsequently be installed in crystalsvg. I think this is easiest done by 
> >hacking the build system such that "KDE_ICON = AUTO" outside 
> >kdelibs/pics/crystalsvg install *app*.png icons into hicolor(instead of 
> >currently crystalsvg).
> 
> I would be preferable that apps installed an actual HiColor icon (in 
> addition to installing a CrystalSVG icon), but yes since a HiColor icon is 
> needed for FreeDesktop compliance (GNOME compatibility).
> 
> In many cases there is still a HiColor icon somewhere.  For example: Kile 
> which now has Crystal only, but the old icons still exist in older versions 
> (or on my system).
> 
> I don't mean to single out the Kile developers, but this is an example that 
> I am aware of.  Version 1.6.2 has several problems with the icons.

In many cases their might be a good reason to revert for the new hicolor
icons...at least until something better is made.

> There is no HiColor icon for the application (only CrystalSVG).  This icon 
> does exist in older versions.
> 
> The private icons are not themed.  E.G. they are installed in:
> 
> 	$KDEDIR/share/apps/kile/pics
> 
> rather than:
> 
> 	$KDEDIR/share/apps/kile/<theme>/<size>
> 
> NOTE: there are some PNGs in "pics" that do belong in "pics".
> 
> The private icons installed in "pics" are a mix of CrystalSVG and HiColor.
> 
> At least one system HiColor icon (xfig.png) in included.
> 
> ********
> There are no serious problems here; they can be easily fixed.
> 
> ********
> Another issue that comes up with Kile and KGet: Is there currently a way 
> for KDE to theme pics such as a splash screen and the Drop Target?
> 
> ********
> Another thing which I notice is that now that I have added links to try to 
> unify KDE and GNOME stuff that in: "/usr/share/icons/hicolor", I now have 
> more sizes:
> 
> 	16x16
> 	22x22
> 	24x24
> 	32x32
> 	36x36
> 	48x48
> 	64x64
> 	72x72
> 	96x96
> 	128x128
> 	192x192
> 
> These additional sizes appear to be GNOME icons.  Perhaps this is not an 
> Artist issue, but I wondered if KDE should be able to look at all of these 
> directories for compatibility.  It currently doesn't make a lot of 
> difference since most GNOME type applications only install a 48x48 icon 
> (which is a KDE size also), but this might become an issue in the future.
> 

If we had the SVG source for these icons we could include the Gnome
sizes...perhaps it would time to look for a good replacement for the
hicolor icons. THe flat icons with a bit of color added would be nice here, if
they were made nice enough....but maybe I am just dreaming, but I think
that the hicolor icons should be somehow based on the two color icons,
at least for recognition.

Bye,
Kenneth

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