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Subject:    Re: K-ARTIST:(no subject) -> kde-artwork license man
From:       "Torsten Rahn" <tackat () suse ! de>
Date:       2002-08-14 16:51:53
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Hi Ante :-) ,


> > You might want to talk to ante about the license ... he's the kde-artwork
> > license man ;-)
> You are kidding! 

While I wasn't so much serious about the word "license man" (as you might see from \
the ";-)" I was very serious in regard to the fact that you know much more than me \
about "licensing/copyrighting/whatever .." the artwork. I think referring to you when \
the artist asks which license he should pick is probably a much better idea than \
asking me as I didn't study this stuff. 

> I did strongly oppose the one sentence license, that even is 
> missing a disclaimer. Andreas Pour did agree that it was not an improvement. 
> Others, of whom I recall Luci, agreed. You started to change things, so you 
> seemed to agree too. Yet, last time I checked, it was still there. My 

For KDE 3.1 Everaldo and me are working on a vectorized version of the Crystal Icon \
theme which will be licensed under the LGPL (as of your request/influence).  We will \
have a first version ready by KDE 3.1 Beta 1

> conclusion is that there is no zest to make a better one. OK, I decided to 
> drop the matter. Be Happy with it! Since having no influence at all is rather 
> frustrating, I might leave this list as well. 

Well the influence was put into the new icontheme which will be a clean new start: \
from the perspective of law as well as the perspective of design. If you have some \
further suggestions concerning the license of Crystal please speak up :-)


> While it may be said that this policy is not really for the artwork, it does 
> create consistency, clarity for the distributors. The sense of the policy is 
> to prevent a lot of licenses. It would be good to comply. 

That's certainly true :-)

> PS, that last time I checked the LGPL in kdelibs was an old version. 

Thanks for pointing this out.

Tackat


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Ante :-) ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT face=Arial 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR>&gt;&gt; You might 
want to talk to ante about the license ... he's the kde-artwork<BR>&gt;&gt; 
license man ;-)<BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt; </FONT>You are kidding! </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>While I wasn't so much serious about the word 
"license man" (as you might see from the ";-)" I was very serious in regard to 
the fact that you know much more than me about "licensing/copyrighting/whatever 
.." the artwork. I think referring to you when the artist asks which license he 
should pick is probably a much better idea than asking me as I&nbsp;didn't study 
this stuff.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; I did strongly oppose the one sentence license, that even is <BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>&gt;<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp; 
</FONT></FONT>missing a disclaimer. Andreas Pour did agree that it was not an 
improvement. <BR>&gt; Others, of whom I recall Luci, agreed. You started to 
change things, so you <BR>&gt; seemed to agree too. Yet, last time I checked, it 
was still there. My <BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For KDE 3.1&nbsp;Everaldo and me are working 
on&nbsp;a vectorized version of the&nbsp;Crystal Icon theme which will be 
licensed under the LGPL (as of your request/influence).&nbsp; We will have a 
first version ready by KDE 3.1 Beta 1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; conclusion is that there is no zest to make a better one. OK, I 
decided to <BR>&gt; drop the matter. Be Happy with it! Since having no influence 
at all is rather <BR>&gt; frustrating, I might leave this list as well. 
<BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well the influence was put into the new icontheme 
which will be a clean new start: from the perspective of law as well as the 
perspective of design.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you have some further suggestions concerning the 
license of Crystal please speak up :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt; </FONT>While it may be said that this policy 
is not really for the artwork, it does <BR>&gt; create consistency, clarity for 
the distributors. The sense of the policy is <BR>&gt; to prevent a lot of 
licenses. It would be good to comply. <BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That's certainly true :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt; </FONT>PS, that last time I checked the LGPL 
in kdelibs was an old version. <BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for pointing this out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tackat</FONT></DIV>
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