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Subject: Re: KTTS accessibility
From: Jeremy Whiting <jpwhiting () kde ! org>
Date: 2019-09-19 14:45:15
Message-ID: CADWV2K4MPymfP6oy-fkPzoqNWTVmYFYoTZ+HK5VX4=KnjoV84Q () mail ! gmail ! com
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From looking at https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo it
seems there are a few general accessibility mailing lists targeted at linux
users, but if you mean something more generic than that there are probably
some elsewhere also.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:33 AM Simion <simion314@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> I have similar issues as you, my suggestion is to use Jovie it has tray
> icon with menus and you can and should setup keyboard shortcuts.
> Then even when in browsers you just do a Select text,Ctrl+C and then
> press my Speeck clipboard button.
>
> About browser extensions, browsers have the ability to speak text
> without an internet connection , the issue I had was making the browser
> connect/detect my espeak so there should be extensions that do not
> connect to Google, I personalty prefer to keep the number of extensions
> to minimum and I send everything trough Jovie. What an extension could
> do is for example when you want to read a reddit thread to remove all
> the "reply,report,save" text after each comment , it did not bother me
> enough to do it so far.
>
> A bit offtopic, is there a community place where we could discuss this
> kind of project that are related with TTS but not KDE specific?
> We could share our setup , tricks, scripts we use , for example I
> patched Open Morowind to have it read the dialogs and books, I made a
> script for RPG Maker games that run in browser to read the text to me
> I have a script that can try to OCR text from other games but all this
> are hacks/not polished and are not for general use. This days I am
> thinking if I could somehow inject something into DirectX games and
> intercept the text drawing code and have it it sent to a script to be
> read.
>
> On 9/18/19 9:56 PM, Bob Stia wrote:
> > I am severly sight impaired and legally blind. I can see lines of text,
> but
> > cannot read the words. As such I have utilized KTTS for several years. I
> have
> > found it to be more than adequate for reading/speaking my selected text.
> >
> > I can select text in a document or an Email or a web page which sends it
> to
> > the clipboard. The copy is then present in the KTTS manager. I then
> open
> > KTTS manager which brings up the clipboard, choose jobs, then speak
> clipboard
> > where it is spoken back to me. This is cumberson, but works fine.
> >
> > In the Chrome browser there is an app called select and speak. When you
> > highlight text it brings up an icon and/or which brings up a menu and
> choose
> > select or speak. This sends the selected text to a Google cloud, which
> then
> > speaks the selected text back to you. We don't need a cloud, we have
> > clipboard which receives the text.
> >
> > It would improve accessibility,if at all possible, when we right click
> the
> > selected text a new item in the menu called the speak clipboard would
> > appear, which would then automatically speak the selected text.
> >
> > It would be a good thing if this could be brought to the attention of the
> > Developer of KTTS. Is this feasible????
> >
> >
> > Bob S
> >
>
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<div dir="ltr">From looking at
<a href="https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo</a> \
it seems there are a few general accessibility mailing lists targeted at linux users, \
but if you mean something more generic than that there are probably some elsewhere \
also.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep \
19, 2019 at 1:33 AM Simion <<a \
href="mailto:simion314@gmail.com">simion314@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Bob,<br> I have \
similar issues as you, my suggestion is to use Jovie it has tray <br> icon with \
menus and you can and should setup keyboard shortcuts.<br> Then even when in browsers \
you just do a Select text,Ctrl+C and then <br> press my Speeck clipboard \
button.<br> <br>
About browser extensions, browsers have the ability to speak text <br>
without an internet connection , the issue I had was making the browser <br>
connect/detect my espeak so there should be extensions that do not <br>
connect to Google, I personalty prefer to keep the number of extensions <br>
to minimum and I send everything trough Jovie. What an extension could <br>
do is for example when you want to read a reddit thread to remove all <br>
the "reply,report,save" text after each comment , it did not bother me <br>
enough to do it so far.<br>
<br>
A bit offtopic, is there a community place where we could discuss this <br>
kind of project that are related with TTS but not KDE specific?<br>
We could share our setup , tricks, scripts we use , for example I <br>
patched Open Morowind to have it read the dialogs and books, I made a <br>
script for RPG Maker games that run in browser to read the text to me<br>
I have a script that can try to OCR text from other games but all this <br>
are hacks/not polished and are not for general use. This days I am <br>
thinking if I could somehow inject something into DirectX games and <br>
intercept the text drawing code and have it it sent to a script to be read.<br>
<br>
On 9/18/19 9:56 PM, Bob Stia wrote:<br>
> I am severly sight impaired and legally blind. I can see lines of text, but<br>
> cannot read the words. As such I have utilized KTTS for several years. I \
have<br> > found it to be more than adequate for reading/speaking my selected \
text.<br> ><br>
> I can select text in a document or an Email or a web page which sends it to<br>
> the clipboard. The copy is then present in the KTTS manager. I then open<br>
> KTTS manager which brings up the clipboard, choose jobs, then speak \
clipboard<br> > where it is spoken back to me. This is cumberson, but works \
fine.<br> ><br>
> In the Chrome browser there is an app called select and speak. When you<br>
> highlight text it brings up an icon and/or which brings up a menu and choose<br>
> select or speak. This sends the selected text to a Google cloud, which then<br>
> speaks the selected text back to you. We don't need a cloud, we have<br>
> clipboard which receives the text.<br>
><br>
> It would improve accessibility,if at all possible, when we right click the<br>
> selected text a new item in the menu called the speak clipboard would<br>
> appear, which would then automatically speak the selected text.<br>
><br>
> It would be a good thing if this could be brought to the attention of the<br>
> Developer of KTTS. Is this feasible????<br>
><br>
><br>
> Bob S<br>
><br>
</blockquote></div>
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