From kde-accessibility Thu Sep 19 14:45:15 2019 From: Jeremy Whiting Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 14:45:15 +0000 To: kde-accessibility Subject: Re: KTTS accessibility Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-accessibility&m=156890437726865 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--0000000000009d09360592e90217" --0000000000009d09360592e90217 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" From looking at https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo it seems there are a few general accessibility mailing lists targeted at linux users, but if you mean something more generic than that there are probably some elsewhere also. On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:33 AM Simion wrote: > Hi Bob, > I have similar issues as you, my suggestion is to use Jovie it has tray > icon with menus and you can and should setup keyboard shortcuts. > Then even when in browsers you just do a Select text,Ctrl+C and then > press my Speeck clipboard button. > > About browser extensions, browsers have the ability to speak text > without an internet connection , the issue I had was making the browser > connect/detect my espeak so there should be extensions that do not > connect to Google, I personalty prefer to keep the number of extensions > to minimum and I send everything trough Jovie. What an extension could > do is for example when you want to read a reddit thread to remove all > the "reply,report,save" text after each comment , it did not bother me > enough to do it so far. > > A bit offtopic, is there a community place where we could discuss this > kind of project that are related with TTS but not KDE specific? > We could share our setup , tricks, scripts we use , for example I > patched Open Morowind to have it read the dialogs and books, I made a > script for RPG Maker games that run in browser to read the text to me > I have a script that can try to OCR text from other games but all this > are hacks/not polished and are not for general use. This days I am > thinking if I could somehow inject something into DirectX games and > intercept the text drawing code and have it it sent to a script to be > read. > > On 9/18/19 9:56 PM, Bob Stia wrote: > > I am severly sight impaired and legally blind. I can see lines of text, > but > > cannot read the words. As such I have utilized KTTS for several years. I > have > > found it to be more than adequate for reading/speaking my selected text. > > > > I can select text in a document or an Email or a web page which sends it > to > > the clipboard. The copy is then present in the KTTS manager. I then > open > > KTTS manager which brings up the clipboard, choose jobs, then speak > clipboard > > where it is spoken back to me. This is cumberson, but works fine. > > > > In the Chrome browser there is an app called select and speak. When you > > highlight text it brings up an icon and/or which brings up a menu and > choose > > select or speak. This sends the selected text to a Google cloud, which > then > > speaks the selected text back to you. We don't need a cloud, we have > > clipboard which receives the text. > > > > It would improve accessibility,if at all possible, when we right click > the > > selected text a new item in the menu called the speak clipboard would > > appear, which would then automatically speak the selected text. > > > > It would be a good thing if this could be brought to the attention of the > > Developer of KTTS. Is this feasible???? > > > > > > Bob S > > > --0000000000009d09360592e90217 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From looking at=C2=A0 https://list= s.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo=C2=A0it seems there are a few ge= neral accessibility mailing lists targeted at linux users, but if you mean = something more generic than that there are probably some elsewhere also.
On = Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:33 AM Simion <simion314@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Bob,
I have similar issues as you, my suggestion is to use Jovie it has tray icon=C2=A0 with menus and you can and should setup keyboard shortcuts.
Then even when in browsers you just do a Select text,Ctrl+C=C2=A0 and then =
press my Speeck clipboard button.

About browser extensions, browsers have the ability to speak text
without an internet connection , the issue I had was making the browser connect/detect my espeak so there should be extensions that do not
connect to Google, I personalty prefer=C2=A0 to keep the number of extensio= ns
to minimum and I send everything trough Jovie.=C2=A0 What an extension coul= d
do is for example when you want to read a reddit thread to remove all
the "reply,report,save" text after each comment , it did not both= er me
enough to do it so far.

A bit offtopic, is there a community place where we could discuss this
kind of project that are related with TTS but not KDE specific?
We could share our setup , tricks, scripts we use , for example I
patched Open Morowind to have it=C2=A0 read the dialogs and books, I made a=
script for RPG Maker games that run in browser to read the text to me
I have a script that can try to OCR text from other games but all this
are hacks/not polished and are not for general use. This days I am
thinking if I could somehow inject something into DirectX games and
intercept the text drawing code and have it it sent to=C2=A0 a script to be= read.

On 9/18/19 9:56 PM, Bob Stia wrote:
> I am severly sight impaired and legally blind. I can see lines of text= , but
> cannot read the words. As such I have utilized KTTS for several years.= I have
> found it to be more than adequate for reading/speaking my selected tex= t.
>
> I can select text in a document or an Email or a web page which sends = it to
> the clipboard.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The copy is then present in the KTTS manage= r. I then open
> KTTS manager which brings up the clipboard, choose jobs, then speak cl= ipboard
> where it is spoken back to me. This is cumberson, but works fine.
>
> In the Chrome browser there is an app called select and speak. When yo= u
> highlight text it brings up an icon and/or which brings up a menu and = choose
> select or speak. This sends the selected text to a Google cloud, which= then
> speaks the selected text back to you. We don't need a cloud, we ha= ve
> clipboard which receives the text.
>
> It would improve accessibility,if at all possible, when we right click= the
> selected text a new item in the menu called the speak=C2=A0 clipboard = would
> appear, which would then automatically speak the selected text.
>
> It would be a good thing if this could be brought to the attention of = the
> Developer of KTTS. Is this feasible????
>
>
> Bob S
>
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