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Subject:    RE: How about a IE clone for Linux?
From:       "Timothy R. Butler" <kde () uninetsolutions ! com>
Date:       2000-03-20 1:28:34
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Kevin,
  If you read my other posts, you will see I don't dislike pay-your-way
software. I was just using a cliche. However, I will not pay for Opera if it
has less features and is slower with JavaScript than either of two FREE
browsers (Netscape and MSIE). If Linux was as easy or easier than Windows,
and had more software support than Windows, would people use Windows? No.
Then why pay for Opera? It's not a big deal, but for some reason it bothers
me. 8-)

  -Tim

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: kde-request@lists.netcentral.net
> [mailto:kde-request@lists.netcentral.net]On Behalf Of Kevin Forge
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 12:13 AM
> To: KDE general mailing list
> Subject: Re: How about a IE clone for Linux?
>
>
> "Timothy R. Butler" wrote:
> >
> > > If only Richard were here....  Remember not to confuse "free" as in
> > > liberty with "free" as in "gratis".  Getting your software without
> > > paying for it is great, but money makes the world go round.  I'm not
> > > afraid to pay for my applications, if paying insures that
> work continues
> > > in a timely manner, and the software is advanced.
> > >
> > > I would never ever call IE "free".
> >
> >  Ah, yes, RMS - well - don't bring RMS into this unless (1) you
> are willing
> > to call Linux "GNU/Linux" (anyone who has ever spoken to RMS
> and mentioned
> > Linux knows this by heart), (2) willing to admit KDE is not
> free (until KDE
> > 2.0 and QT 2.0 - and then only "kinda sorta"), (3) acknowledge
> the term open
> > source is very deceiving and wrong.
> >  However, I will speak RMS-speak. I meant IE is free as in
> gratis, whereas
> > Opera has less features and is neither free nor gratis. So IE
> seems like the
> > lessor of the two evils here.
>
> This is flawed reasoning.  Money is not wrong and software you must pay
> for is not evil.  I worked for a company that sold an Accounting
> package.
> It cost a lot of money and the sales agreement says in clear english "If
> you pay us this amount again you get the source code along with the
> right
> to modify it as you see fit.
>
> This is not Gratis or Libra or truly Open Source.  It's not Free by any
> measure, but is it evil ?
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