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List:       kde
Subject:    Re: Lockup in KDE
From:       "John Couturier" <johnprgr () linkline ! com>
Date:       1999-08-15 19:25:11
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All of my experiences have been while using Netscape.  Maybe I just use Netscape \
alot, I don't know.  Are you using the libc5 version or the glibc one?  I have the \
latest glibc one from the Mandrake updates site.  Here is some more info.

This is the second time I am writing a response to this post.  (My ISP offers an HTML \
based e-mail access and I use that)  The first response - while writing it my hard \
drive began going nuts I let it go for 10 minutes and was forced to turn off the PC \
with the power switch.  I tried CTL-ALT-DEL and it didn't work.  The mouse would work \
very slowly.  I thought a core dump was eating my CPU time up at first but when Linux \
came back up I did "find / -name core -print" (as root) and it found nothing.  During \
the fschk on reboot, only one inode was deleted and the reason was "0 date/time".  \
Could this have been a core dump that was not finished?  I was realy hopping for a \
core dump, sometimes they have some regular words in them and you can figure out what \
was doing it.

I am now running KDE 1.1.2pre dated 19990720.  I downloaded and compiled from the \
source yesterday.  I feel better about source code than RPM's just personal \
preference.  Maybe this will help.  One of posts said Mandrake uses more \
optimizations than RedHat so maybe by not optimizing quit so much I will be more \
stable.    I have an AMD k6-2 300 with 64 megs ram and 100mb Swap file.

Another thing about my "freeze ups".  They don't realy freeze the computer (with \
exception of todays hard drive thrashing).  I can usually  CTL-ALT-DEL and avoid the \
massive fschk stuff.  Also many times I am downloading files and can pick up the \
phone and listen to the modems talk, so its more of a failure to refresh the screen \
or something.  My computer is actually running.  I don't know.  But only in Netscape \
for me.

John

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Bob Koss <rskoss@oma.com>
Reply-To: kde@lists.netcentral.net
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:11:54 -0400 (EDT)

> I don't think this is a netscape thing. I've had lockups whether NS was
running or not. Yesterday, XEmacs locked up on me.

One poster pointed to kfm as the culprit, and that indeed undid the lock.
Of course I lost my desktop when I killed kfm.


On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, Terry wrote:

> I use true-type fonts in netscape and have not had any lockups yet. FYI
> running RH6.0...kernel 2.2X.X and AMD K6-2 @300mhz with 96meg of PC100
> SDRAM.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Couturier <johnprgr@linkline.com>
> To: KDE general mailing list <kde@lists.netcentral.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Lockup in KDE
> 
> 
> > I finally filtered through all the rest of the stuff in this thread and
> found a response to my question.  As to why I run multiple Netscape's is
> because I just always have alot of crap going on and don't have the time to
> do just one thing.  That is why I stick to LInux at home in the first place,
> I can get twice the stuff done at the same time.  Minor lockups aside.
> > 
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: Albert Wagner <alwagner@tcac.net>
> > Reply-To: kde@lists.netcentral.net
> > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:18:10 -0500
> > 
> > > John Couturier wrote:
> > > 
> > > Here is my 2 cents.  I also run Mandrake 6.0 and have a Netscape lock-up
> problem.  Though mine is not as tramatic as yours appears to be. Perhaps
> what I have found out will help you.
> > > Mine happens usually after surfing the web with two Netscape
> browsers open.  I am running the updated Netscape 4.61 rpms from the
> Mandrake site.  If I don't use True Type fonts as my default fonts for
> Netscape (Edit menu -> preferences -> fonts) The problem still occurs but I
> can surf for maybe 45 minutes in dual windows instead of 2-3 minutes.  My
> point then is that I believe yours (and my) problems stem from the
> integrated font server in XFree86-3.3.3.1 that comes with Mandrake.  I think
> the font server is running out of resources and freezing things, or Netscape
> (which has never played well with True Type fonts) has a problem with them.
> > > 
> > > Do you use the True Type Fonts in any of your defaults?  Does
> anybody else out there know anything about the stability of this integrated
> font server?
> > > 
> > ----------
> > I think everybody, including me has trouble with Netscape in Linux. It's
> > a memory hog and leaks.  I get by with it by occasionally logging off
> > and back on.  This has nothing to do with KDE.  Why in the world would
> > you run with TWO of these trouble makers at once?  You just double the
> > trouble.
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