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List:       kde
Subject:    Re: A couple of kde-related problems
From:       George Hademenos <gpete () ev1 ! net>
Date:       1999-07-06 18:07:22
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you are absolutely right but there aren't that many people who use >50 computers at one
time.....so why impose package managers on the majority...in any case enough said here and
lets focus on compiler issues necessary to implement KDE.






Jeffrey D Anderson wrote:

> George Hademenos writes:
>  > Well I have several Linux computers and I have built many versions of many tarballs
>  > on top of each other and never once had a problem getting along without a package
>  > manager.....they are not needed...they only serve to restrict the free flow and
>  > exchange of intellectual ideas.....for example people who see RPMs think they need
>  > to get a RedHat system to use them or people who see .deb files think they need to
>  > get a Debian system to use them...this is all crap ....and people should know they
>  > can do anything they want without package managers....tarballs are
>  > sufficient......the public should not be tricked into buying RedHat or Debian just
>  > because they see .RPM or .deb files that they want to use.....they should know that
>  > they can build their own operating system for free from scratch with simply tarballs
>  > even if it might take them 5 years to do it.
>
> >From your last sentence I can only assume you're joking around here.
>
> Obviously I'm not talking about the casual hobbiest.  I'm talking
> about the system manager who has >50 computers.  How does he make
> certain that there isn't an old version of some seldom used program
> lurking around.  This kind of thing is one of the main causes of
> security breaches.  "rpm -qa" on all the machines and process the
> output with perl or something, and you have all the information you
> need.  How would you do this without a package manager?
> Run /bin/* --version ???
>
> This has nothing to do with KDE anymore.  To try to return to
> something relevant, I wonder whether the kpackage developers have any
> plans to add remote or least multi-configuration support to
> kpackage?  If I could pull up a screen showing what versions of bind
> are installed on all the machines in a cluster, that might be useful.
>
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