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Subject:    Re: Why NT is better than KDE/UNIX
From:       mosfet <mosfet () jorsm ! com>
Date:       1998-08-19 15:12:41
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I specialize in setting up client/server solution for businesses using
primarily DEC OSF/1 as the server and Linux/X as the client components. I used
to use SCO, but that's not really on topic. 

My reason for using Unix/KDE is not simply that I like Unix's effeciency. It
is a valued tool in getting my job done. On an identical DEC AlphaServer 4000 I
could support 500+ data entry people easily on Oracle. With NT we max out at
around 150. On the Intel side, when was the last system admin you met who has
counted more than 4 months (or 4 weeks for that matter) uptime using NT. I know
quite a few people, including myself, who have logged much longer than that 
using Linux. People who have large enterprise wide applications other than file
sharing and must have at least a predictable uptime schedule cannot use NT. Any
company with more than say 200 people will run into problems, which many have
found out the hard way.

As far as KDE is concerned, I found out a long time ago that running Windows X
servers on the client side of an application is really, really slow. This is
the primary complaint I get from users. The situation has improved somewhat,
but not by much. Thus I have taken to providing people with PC's running Unix
(now Linux) and X natively. This has greatly improved their application's GUI's
speed. The only problem is that these are Windows users, with little if any
Unix experience. I used to use a hacked up Fvwm2 that pretty much just launched
applications on the server. Now with KDE, I can provide my users with a much
more complete computing environment. 


On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Steven T. Hatton wrote:
>!WARNING! THIS MESSAGE IS FLAME BATE.  YES THIS IS AN OPEN TROLL!!!!
>
>I work with both NT and Unix on a daily basis and I find that NT is, in
>general, easier to administer.  People may say this is because I am not
>as smart as the true Unix administrator.  Ok perhaps this is the case.
>M$ has put a lot of thought and effort into making NT easy to
>administer.  There are many powerful, well integrated, intuitive to use
>administration tools that come with NT.  I believe that the open source
>and freeware community should work toward creating a Unix administration
>suite that is as easy to use and as well integrated as NT is.
>
>This post is intended as a conversation starter.  It is also intended as
>a wake-up call for those who think that M$ is not creating a product
>that represents a formidable challenge to the Unix market share.  I
>favor the open-source/freeware model of software development.  It will
>eventually prevail, but it has a long way to go before it will be as
>easy to use as NT.  When people make decisions about which operating
>system to use as a basis for their business, they care more about how
>easy it is to implement and maintain than how efficient, cheap, or
>versatile it is.  It seems to me that the KDE is the place to focus an
>integrated UNIX administration suite effort.
>
>BTW, I run the KDE on S.u.S.E. Linux and it is very stable.  Just a few
>minor bugs.
>
>Steve
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