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List:       kde
Subject:    Re: GNOME Desktop Project
From:       Mario Weilguni <mweilguni () arctica ! sime ! com>
Date:       1997-09-10 22:09:40
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A few weeks ago you replied this to a mail from Bernd Johannes Wuebben.
I've to say that you are right: Bernd's response seemed to be really
rude. It seems he doesn't really want to publish his programs under GPL. 

2 month ago I talked to BJW and told him I want to write a accounting
feature for kppp - he agreed but said he doesn't want to have co-authors
on kppp. I agreed (mainly because I think PPP accounting is a very good
thing - especially if you live in Europe where you've to pay for phone
lines :-(. I wrote the accounting module for kppp and sent it to BJW.
Then he removed my name from all source files (ok, he gave me credit in
the "About" dialog. Interesting enough, he did'nt remove the credit
lines from the files his brother wrote). I found that very annoying and
that this is really bad attitude.

However, I've seen that you're writing a dialer for GNOME. Maybe you are
interested in the accounting module from kppp. I think it would be a
good idea to reuse it (because it uses a simple text file describing
accounting rules, there are already some from Italy, Spain, Austria,
Germany...).

Best regards,
        Mario Weilguni


PS: please consider this to be private mail - I do not want to begin an
email war with Bernd.

Jay Painter wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, clearly I am the bad guy, having spent all that sweat and blood to
> > produce thousands of lines of code for everyone to use and enjoy.
> > KDE was the project to show the Linux world that there is hope. How
> > about talking to us rather than fighting us?
> 
> Ok, enough of this crap.  Bernd, when you contacted me in February about
> "donating" a program I wrote called EzPPP to the KDE project I thought you
> were a little rude.  I responded by saying that EzPPP was GPLed, and you
> could use it in KDE at any time.  I also requested that you wait for me to
> finish a release version, as I was still working on serious bugs at the
> time.  You immediately set off on kppp which still consists of about 70%
> my code, and has some design problems in the serial communication.  Do I
> care?  No, it's GPL'd.  I think it's a bit of a waste, but oh well...  KDE
> has used other people's code at every chance, which is a GOOD thing.  Who
> wants to spend time duplicating work that's already been done? But don't
> go telling me you sweated and bled over every line of code.
> 
> I personally don't care what programming language I write programs in, but
> I'm not willing to put thousands of hours of free programming effort into
> a non-free GUI toolkit, especially one that is as proprietary as Qt
> (because of its signal/slot mechanism).
> 
> So, you better not try restricting at least one of the programs you have
> authored, because it has my GPL'd code in it.  I hope your attitude is
> unique among the KDE programmers.
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Jay Painter
> Systems Admin, SSC/Linux Journal
> http://www.a42.com/~jay

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