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List:       gentoo-sparc
Subject:    [gentoo-sparc] Re: xlibs keybinding on Sparc U5 [are broken in latest xfree version]
From:       Ferris McCormick <fmccor () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2005-01-09 3:54:10
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.61.0501090331120.8252 () terciopelo ! krait ! us
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Have any of you been following this (Debian) thread? (This is
about number 3, brief summary is that after an xfree version
update, keyboard mapping for type5 quit working.)

The problem looks like a variation of our problem with xorg
to the effect that with kernel-2.4.xx, the (new) kbd driver
can't be used at all with sun keyboards, so we must use the
deprecated driver.  The xkb files for xfree and for xorg-x11
are not identical, as I recall, but they are very similar:
for example, the 'include' that they are talking about does
not appear in the sun files, but it seems the equivalent
mappings get defined by alternate means.  And the xorg xkb
files for sun do not work at all with kernel-2.4.xx if you
force them to be loaded by using a keymap.

Thoughts or insight?  If I can track down an xfree build
(I think I have some lying around), I'll try the "dirty
Patch" and see how the kbd driver works.  But ideas on this
are always welcome.

Regards,

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Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@gentoo.org>
Developer, Gentoo Linux (sparc)

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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 00:36:10 +0100
From: Frans Pop <aragorn@tiscali.nl>
To: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xlibs keybinding on Sparc U5
Resent-Date: Sat,  8 Jan 2005 17:36:17 -0600 (CST)
Resent-From: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org

On Saturday 08 January 2005 23:55, Nikolai Rinas wrote:
> It doesn't work, but as I saw your diff, i had an idea to remove
> the "include "srvr_ctrl(xfree86)";" - lines. After this dirty Patch
> came my binding back.

Ah nice. That means they've really messed something up.

I'm guessing this may have to do with the fact that with 2.6 kernels Sun
keyboards are presented as having a 'normal' at-keyboard layout.
They've probably tried to fix this by changing the keymap, forgetting that
for 2.4 kernels the old 'real' sun layout needs to be supported.

> The question is, what the "include"-line for. I don't know how
> X manage the keybinding.

I don't know either, let's let the package maintainers worry about that.

> So I think this two Mails are interesting for the Developer of
> this Package. I'm new in Debian-Lists so how do i shall proceed?

Best think is first check the changelog for the package xlibs to see if
you can find an indication of why the change was made.
You can use the "C" key for that in xlibs or else look on
packages.debian.org (don't forget to select 'sarge' on the form).
You'll have to check the changelog for both the -9 and -10 versions!

The lists are _not_ useful here. The Bug Tracking System is. See
bugs.debian.org for more info. Read some existing reports in the BTS for
the xlibs package to get a feel for them.

The next step is to file a bug using 'reportbug xlibs' (if the problem has
not been reported already, but I wouldn't think so).
I'd suggest severity 'important'. Give the bug a usefull title like 'Sun5
keyboard no longer works after xlibs update' and explain the problems and
the way you fixed them as best you can.
(You could maybe add my theory, but could also leave it to the maintainer
to figure out the cause of the problem. I'm not really sure if the theory
is correct; the changelog may tell you more.)

Cheers,
FJP
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