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List:       gentoo-dev
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC
From:       Mike Frysinger <vapier () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2013-04-25 23:07:18
Message-ID: 201304251907.19598.vapier () gentoo ! org
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On Thursday 25 April 2013 15:09:28 vivo75@gmail.com wrote:
> On 04/24/13 21:17, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:00:17PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:16:06 -0500 William Hubbs wrote:
> >>> This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* scripts
> >>> will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate package
> >>> that includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet.
> >> 
> >> Aside all the other, please don't name it like this :). It's just feels
> >> wrong to start new and supposedly beneficial project and name it 'old'
> >> like something you just thrown away off the main tree.
> > 
> > The name is also per robbat2's request. I asked him about other names,
> > but he specifically wanted oldnet in the name.
> > 
> > A little bit of historical background may be in order here.
> > 
> > In a nutshell, it is called old because Roy wanted to deprecate the
> > whole thing eventually and switch us over to the newnet scripts that
> > OpenRC has.
> > name.
> > 
> > We thought about killing off newnet entirely for a while in OpenRC, but
> > I have since found that people do use it. It is more similar to what
> > happens on the *bsd side, and it works well for simple setups.
> 
> s/it works well for simple setups/it work wonderfully for very complex
> setups/
> 
> It can mimic very closely the 'ip' command, making it easy to test on
> commandline and just copy and paste in conf.d/net.
> At the same time it benefit from a lot of howtos and tutorials written
> for sys-apps/iproute2
> 
> "old"net is the best network manager out there including all major distro.

William is talking about newnet when he says "works well for simple setups"
-mike

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