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List:       gentoo-dev
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-dev] RE: creating ebuilds
From:       Caleb Tennis <caleb () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2004-01-07 13:20:02
Message-ID: 200401070820.02930.caleb () gentoo ! org
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On Wednesday 07 January 2004 01:18 am, Jeff Stuart wrote:
> I have to agree with Allen on this.  I submitted some ebuilds for some
> WindowMaker apps almost 3 or 4 months ago.  Since then, I've moved on and
> switched WM's twice. LOL  Yet, my ebuilds are STILL sitting in bugzilla yet
> to be reviewed.  Every once in a while, I'll get a comment about one or two
> of the submitted ebuilds.  And to be frank, since I'm not using it anymore,
> I could care LESS what happens to em.

I don't want to seem condescending here, but you're saying that you submitted 
ebuilds for programs that you yourself aren't even continuining to use yet 
are irritated that someone else didn't pick them up for maintainership?

It's not that there's some pending queue for ebuilds to be reviewed; they 
simply need to have an audience.  And one person in that audience has to be a 
developer.  My guess is that there just wasn't much interest by any current 
dev. for these applications.  

If there's no developer who is willing to take on an ebuild, yet there's a 
substantial need for it within the community, then we simply need another 
developer.  But somebody has to be willing to fill that niche.

I think of it like this: I used to be the coordinator of the KDevelop project, 
and we would get feature requests all of the time.  Some of the good ideas 
were relatively minor.  Others, while also good ideas, were these major 
undertakings that nobody already on the team was all that interested in.  If 
someone were willing to come along and do what it took to implement them, 
they would be welcome with open arms.  But instead, it was easier for people 
to just tell us what they wanted.

> It annoys me (on a scale of 1 - 10 where 10 is full blown anger, it's
> definitely a 1!) that user submitted ebuilds can take a WHILE to get
> approved.  (Note: the ebuilds that I had submitted for the XFCE 4 rc
> releases on the other hand were accepted within days of me submitting
> em. :))  Kinda removes the feel that "power" is in the user's hands.

The power is always in the users' hands.  I think you'll agree that you can 
basically do anything you want with Gentoo.  The only caveat is that if you 
want your ebuild to become an offical part of Gentoo, it needs a developer to 
sponsor it.  If that doesn't happen, and you still really want it to be a 
part of Gentoo, then you need to seek out becoming a developer yourself.  It 
is possible.  It just takes some effort. :)


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