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List:       freebsd-hackers
Subject:    Re: Motherboards for Ryzen 9 (was: Trying initial boot of FreeBSD (main so: 15) of Ryzen 9 7950X3D o
From:       Daniel Engberg <daniel.engberg.lists () pyret ! net>
Date:       2023-11-13 5:46:10
Message-ID: f85c894ac6e9f98f3087de12c0bec714 () mail ! infomaniak ! com
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On 2023-11-13T00:22:31.000+01:00, Greg 'groggy' Lehey
<grog@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> On  Sunday,  12  November  2023  at  13:49:49  +0100,  Paul  Floyd  wrote:
> > On  12-11-23  11:35,  Daniel  Engberg  wrote:
> > 
> > > On  Sunday,  12  November  2023  at  9:46:18  +0100,  Paul  Floyd  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > MSI  MAG  X670E  Tomahawk
> > > 
> > > The  MSI  board  looks  decent  I  guess,  the  x16/x4/x2  layout  isn't
> > > great  but
> > > 
> > > it's  not  horrible  either  depending  on  your  use  case.  Never
> > > looked  into
> > > 
> > > their  lineup  due  to  lack  of  a  decent  builtin  NIC.  You  can  get  a
> > > separate
> > > 
> > > one  but  it's  still  an  additional  cost  and  takes  of  at  least  one
> > > PCIe  slot.
> 
> FWIW,  I've  just  got  a  machine  with  this  motherboard.  It  seemed  the
> 
> best  option  available  to  me  at  the  time,  and  I  haven't  had  any
> issues
> 
> with  it.  Yes,  the  silly  NIC  (where  do  you  find  2.5  Gb/s  hubs?)  is
> 
> irritating,  but  I  need  2  NICs  anyway,  so  putting  in  a  second  wasn't
> an
> 
> issue.  I  also  couldn't  find  any  motherboard  that  fitted  the  other
> 
> requirements  and  didn't  have  this  NIC.
> 
> Greg
> 
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> 
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Hi,

Nice! So the sata controller gets initialized correctly even on newer
BIOS versions? Does the Realtek NIC work ootb or do you need to use
the driver in ports tree? 2.5G switches aren't that uncommon these
days,

https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/5-8-port-2-5gbe-unmanaged-switch-mg100-series


https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-unmanaged-multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1010-12


https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1210-12


https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-gigabit-switch-includes-3-port-10g-and-1-port-10g-sfp-xgs1250-12


https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/24-port-2-5g-multi-gig-lite-l3-smart-managed-switch-with-6-10g-uplinks-xmg1930-series


https://www.netgear.com/business/wired/switches/unmanaged/ms105/

https://geizhals.de/?cat=switchgi&xf=13266_2G5

Just to mention a few :)

Best regards,

Daniel


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<div>On 2023-11-13T00:22:31.000+01:00, Greg 'groggy' Lehey &lt;grog@FreeBSD.org&gt; \
wrote:<br></div><div class="ik_mail_quote answerContentMessage"><blockquote \
class="ws-ng-quote"><pre style="white-space: normal;"><div>On Sunday, 12 November \
2023 at 13:49:49 +0100, Paul Floyd wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="ws-ng-quote"><div>  On 12-11-23 11:35, Daniel Engberg \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="ws-ng-quote"><div> <br></div><div> On Sunday, 12 \
November 2023 at  9:46:18 +0100, Paul Floyd wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="ws-ng-quote"><div> <br></div><div> MSI MAG X670E \
Tomahawk<br></div></blockquote><div> <br></div><div> The MSI board looks decent I \
guess, the x16/x4/x2 layout isn't great but<br></div><div> it's not horrible either \
depending on your use case. Never looked into<br></div><div> their lineup due to lack \
of a decent builtin NIC. You can get a separate<br></div><div> one but it's still an \
additional cost and takes of at least one PCIe \
slot.<br></div></blockquote></blockquote><div> <br></div><div>FWIW, I've just got a \
machine with this motherboard.  It seemed the<br></div><div>best option available to \
me at the time, and I haven't had any issues<br></div><div>with it.  Yes, the silly \
NIC (where do you find 2.5 Gb/s hubs?) is<br></div><div>irritating, but I need 2 NICs \
anyway, so putting in a second wasn't an<br></div><div>issue.  I also couldn't find \
any motherboard that fitted the other<br></div><div>requirements and didn't have this \
NIC.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Greg<br></div><div>--<br></div><div>Sent from my \
desktop computer.<br></div><div>See complete headers for address and phone \
numbers.<br></div><div>This message is digitally signed.  If your Microsoft mail \
program<br></div><div>reports problems, please read <a data-ik="ik-secure" \
rel="noopener noreferrer" class="defaultMailLink" \
href="http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php" \
target="_blank">http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php</a><br></div></pre></blockquote></div><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Nice! \
So the sata controller gets initialized correctly even on newer BIOS versions? Does \
the Realtek NIC work ootb or do you need to use the driver in ports tree? 2.5G \
switches aren't that uncommon these days,<br></div><div><br></div><div><a \
href="https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/5-8-port-2-5gbe-unmanaged-switch-mg100-series" \
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" \
data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/5-8-port-2-5gbe-unmanaged-switch-mg100-series</a><br></div><div><a \
href="https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-unmanaged-multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1010-12" \
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" \
data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-unmanaged- \
multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1010-12</a><br></div><div><a \
href="https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1210-12" \
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" \
data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-manage \
d-multi-gigabit-switch-with-2-port-2-5g-and-2-port-10g-sfp-xgs1210-12</a><br></div><div><a \
href="https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-managed-multi-gigabit-switch-includes-3-port-10g-and-1-port-10g-sfp-xgs1250-12" \
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" \
data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/12-port-web-manage \
d-multi-gigabit-switch-includes-3-port-10g-and-1-port-10g-sfp-xgs1250-12</a><br></div><div><a \
href="https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/24-port-2-5g-multi-gig-lite-l3-smart-managed-switch-with-6-10g-uplinks-xmg1930-series" \
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" \
data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.zyxel.com/global/en/products/switch/24-port-2-5g-multi \
-gig-lite-l3-smart-managed-switch-with-6-10g-uplinks-xmg1930-series</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a \
href="https://www.netgear.com/business/wired/switches/unmanaged/ms105/" \
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" \
data-ik="ik-secure">https://www.netgear.com/business/wired/switches/unmanaged/ms105/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a \
href="https://geizhals.de/?cat=switchgi&amp;xf=13266_2G5" target="_blank" \
rel="noopener noreferrer" \
data-ik="ik-secure">https://geizhals.de/?cat=switchgi&amp;xf=13266_2G5</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Just \
to mention a few :)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best \
regards,<br></div><div>Daniel<br></div><div ><div><br></div></div>



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