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List:       fedora-list
Subject:    Re: Unable to do F40 Live Workstation install on machine with very old graphics
From:       Felix Miata <mrmazda () earthlink ! net>
Date:       2024-04-27 14:04:23
Message-ID: 63c218ef-046a-f2c0-0d45-a0576a281005 () earthlink ! net
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John Pilkington composed on 2024-04-27 12:54 (UTC+0100):

> Felix Miata wrote:
...
>> System:
>>    Host: mcp61 Kernel: 6.6.23-1-longterm arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
>>      v: 13.2.1 clocksource: tsc avail: acpi_pm parameters: root=LABEL=<filter>
>>      ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 noresume consoleblank=0 preempt=full
>>      mitigations=off
...
Notice absence of X graphics parameters (rhgb,quiet,nouveau,nvidia,drm,video,etc)
on the kernel cmdline.

>> Graphics:
>>    Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] vendor: Micro-Star MSI
>>      driver: nouveau v: kernel non-free: series: 304.xx
>>      status: legacy (EOL~2017-09-xx) last: release: 304.137 kernel: 4.13
>>      xorg: 1.19 arch: Curie process: 90-130nm built: 2003-2013 ports:
>>      active: VGA-1 empty: none bus-ID: 00:0d.0 chip-ID: 10de:03d0
>>      class-ID: 0300
>>    Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.4
>>      compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting dri: nouveau
>>      gpu: nouveau display-ID: :0 screens: 1

Loaded X driver: modesetting, the upstream default for all AMD, Intel and NVidia GPUs.

>>    Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1680x1050 s-dpi: 108 s-size: 395x246mm (15.55x9.69")
>>      s-diag: 465mm (18.32")
>>    Monitor-1: VGA-1 model: Dell P2213 serial: <filter> built: 2012
>>      res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 90 gamma: 1.2 size: 473x296mm (18.62x11.65")
>>      diag: 558mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400
...
> The dual-boot box doesn't boot straight into graphics mode, pausing 
> while waiting to exit the plymouth screen and hanging after failing to 
> start abrtd.service.

> ctrl-alt-F2 allows login, and plasmastart-wayland gives a 800x600 
> plasma screen and starts wifi.  I haven't yet found a bootline that does 
> better than this.  Mostly the system just freezes.

> I had installed the updated rpmfusion 340xx packages, without useful 
> results, before trying the updated 470xx.  There are still references to 
> a 340xx config in the Xorg log.

> #inxi -GSaz  --zl --hostname

> System:
>    Host: FedWin4c1 Kernel: 6.8.7-200.fc39.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
>      compiler: gcc v: 2.40-14.fc39 clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
>      parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=(hd2,gpt2)/vmlinuz-6.8.7-200.fc39.x86_64
>      root=/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root ro
>      rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau modprobe.blacklist=nouveau
...
Absent complete, competent installation of proprietary NVidia drivers,
blacklisting of nouveau kernel module completely blocks X competence.

> Graphics:
>    Device-1: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 710] vendor: ASUSTeK GT710-SL-1GD5
>      driver: nvidia v: 470.239.06 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free:
>      series: 470.xx+ status: legacy-active (EOL~2024-09-xx) arch: Fermi 2
>      code: GF119/GK208 process: TSMC 28nm built: 2010-2016 pcie: gen: 2
>      speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:128b class-ID: 
> 0300
>    Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.20.14 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6
>      compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: N/A

No X driver loaded (neither nvidia nor nouveau), no competence from X.

 alternate: nvidia
>      gpu: nvidia display-ID: 0
>    Monitor-1: Unknown-1 res: 800x600  

FOSS graphics setup can't be mixed with proprietary NVidia. One or the other to
the exclusion of the other is the only way that can work competently. All of
NVidia driver installation's changes must be 100% purged in order to enable FOSS
to do its job. That's never been a problem here, as I've only ever installed FOSS
drivers on my own hardware, including more than 5 NVidias running F39 and/or F40.

# inxi -GSaz --zl --hostname
System:
  Host: p5bse Kernel: 6.7.11-200.fc39.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    compiler: gcc v: 2.40-14.fc39 clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: ro root=LABEL=<filter> ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 selinux=0
    plymouth.enable=0 consoleblank=0 mitigations=off
  Desktop: TDE (Trinity) v: R14.1.1 tk: Qt v: 3.5.0 wm: Twin v: 3.0
    with: kicker vt: 7 dm: 1: TDM 2: XDM Distro: Fedora Linux 40 (Forty)
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GF119 [NVS 310] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nouveau
    v: kernel non-free: series: 390.xx+ status: legacy (EOL~2022-11-22) last:
    release: 390.157 kernel: 6.0 xorg: 1.21 arch: Fermi code: GF1xx
    process: 40/28nm built: 2010-2016 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16
    ports: active: DP-1,DP-2 empty: none bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:107d
    class-ID: 0300 temp: 50.0 C
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.14 compositor: Twin v: 3.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau
    display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x2490 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 541x527mm (21.30x20.75")
    s-diag: 755mm (29.73")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 pos: primary,bottom model: Acer K272HUL serial: <filter>
    built: 2018 res: 2560x1440 hz: 60 dpi: 109 gamma: 1.2
    size: 598x336mm (23.54x13.23") diag: 686mm (27") ratio: 16:9 modes:
    max: 2560x1440 min: 720x400
  Monitor-2: DP-2 pos: top model: Dell P2213 serial: <filter> built: 2012
    res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 90 gamma: 1.2 size: 473x296mm (18.62x11.65")
    diag: 558mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: nvidia nouveau platforms: device: 0 drv: nouveau
    device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: nouveau surfaceless: drv: nouveau x11:
    drv: nouveau inactive: wayland
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 4.3 vendor: mesa v: 24.0.4 glx-v: 1.4
    direct-render: yes renderer: NVD9 device-ID: 10de:107d memory: 474.6 MiB
    unified: no
#
Lots of nouveau working as expected, and displays both running in native mode.
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Felix Miata
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