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Subject:    Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements
From:       Benson Muite <benson_muite () emailplus ! org>
Date:       2021-10-15 6:18:11
Message-ID: 35d7e15e-6828-7b67-3d89-aea152862dbd () emailplus ! org
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On 10/15/21 5:13 AM, Michal Schorm wrote:
> Thinking about this more, I always get to a question:
> "Who are the consumers of that information and what do they actually
> use it for?"
> 
> My personal idea is that the _ recommended _ requirements (of any OS)
> are seeked by people that
> 1/ are going to install the system on some hardware on which that OS
> wasn't previously present
> 2/ are looking up values with which they expect fluent, smooth,
> experience both today and few year into the future
> 3/ _ want _ to install that OS, but have to purchase the HW yet, so
> they are looking at recommendations on what HW to buy
> 
> The _ recommended _ HW requirements could be reviewed periodically
> also based on the current market offering.
> The market surely can differ through the world, as well as the average
> purchase power.
> However I wouldn't recommend anyone to e.g. go with less than 8GB of
> RAM today, when considering what new HW to buy or what HW to use for a
> setup intended to be used for years.
This is useful for development, however much RAM intensive work can be 
done on the cloud or in some institutional settings a shared high 
capacity local server. For most people, largest daily use would come 
from spreadsheets and internet browsing. Many programs are sufficient on 
4Gb of RAM, though many lightweight electron Javascript applications can 
slow performance compared to similar C/C++/GO alternative applications.
> Perhaps, we - as a community - might be able to gather our
> expectations and make some average for those values?
> 
> 
> The _ minimal _ requirements on the other hand are IMO seeked by an
> entirely different group of people that
> 1/ are looking up the minimal requirements on recent HW for e.g. IOT
> edition, or other use-cases in which you need to get the most of a not
> really powerful but recent HW
> 2/ are looking up whether some HW from a XYZ years or decades ago
> could run the Fedora Linux
Main issue is hardware security.
> 
> I understand it may be hard to check whether the HW meets the pure
> technical limitations.
> Though if we know how to do that, we may automate that and prepare
> some package, some script purely for the purpose of this check. We
> would also need to think about where to put it - the server edition
> maybe, or the net installer, or could we patch the GRUB2 itself with
> it, providing a custom call which could be selected as a separate boot
> entry in all the bootable media we provide ?
> 
> 
> What do you folks think - does the idea of defining the values based
> on the use cases of people that are _  actually likely to seek those
> values _ make sense as I tried to explain it?
It may be better to ask people using/developing different spins what 
they find works for their spin. Bare OS is probably fine on 512MB - 1GB 
of RAM.  Applications and data used are more important - if you are 
building software locally, doing image processing, video editing, doing 
engineering simulation and design, doing communication, browsing the 
web, gaming, or office applications, your needs will be quite different. 
Possibly one can measure RAM use during CI tests for the applications.
> 
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