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List:       drupal-documentation
Subject:    [documentation] Building the Dojo
From:       Kristof Van Tomme <kvantomme () gmail ! com>
Date:       2009-03-06 20:44:18
Message-ID: f47e030903061244o57658165xf24343fd6522145 () mail ! gmail ! com
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Hi,

on the 27th of March I'm having my first Drupal introduction class for
this semester here at the unie. We'll have approximately 15-25
students (it's a extra course, some students don't show up).

We'll have 6 people with Drupal experience mentoring them. We did a
low level check on the students so most of them know some PHP, HTML
and CSS, and we give them a basic introduction into Drupal on 27/3 and
3/4.

These students have to do a Drupal web development project to get
their credits, so I was thinking that at least part of them we could
have working on a couple of first iterations for the Drupal Dojo. Not
all of us would be working on the Dojo, but I can imagine 2-4 groups
doing consecutive SCRUM iterations (maybe on 3 consecutive weekends).

We could work from the spec at
http://groups.drupal.org/open-learning-and-collaboration-portal

The mentors probably could function as SCRUM masters, and maybe come
together with their group of students during 1 weekend.

What do you think of this idea? Does anybody have practical ideas on
how to make this a success?

Cheers,
Kristof


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2009/2/5 Gus Austin <gus@pepperalley.com>:
> Hi,
>
> I chatted to George in the IRC about some projects/initiatives complimentary
> to what's being discussed here. The following thread should give you some
> background and an idea how things are moving forward with one of them -
> http://groups.drupal.org/node/15832
>
> The aggregation element has been broken out into it's own subproject
> (http://groups.drupal.org/node/16873) and the goal is to create something
> modular that could easily be set up on the Dojo site, on official channels
> (g.d.o./d.o.), or anywhere else it would make sense.
>
> There's already a good foundation, skilled team coming together, and it
> would great to combine forces build something that would be very valuable to
> the community.
>
> Come join the fun!
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, George <g@8vue.com> wrote:
>>
>> Kristof, heck yeah, i'd love any help i can get :) i just haven't
>> thought that far ahead and really shouldn't be writing emails late at
>> night! please send me your email, so i can contact you directly.
>>
>> Kristof Van Tomme wrote:
>> > Hi George,
>> >
>> > I'm not sure if you got my email, the only reference I see is about
>> > the bookmarks.
>> >
>> > What about
>> > -multi-lingual resources?
>> > -my offer to help?
>> >
>> >
>> > -There is a big chance I'll be involved in the video team at the next
>> > European Drupalcon (e.g. for sure if Maastricht wins, possibly if
>> > Paris wins).
>> > -I have access to the Szeged video material (we put it online).
>> >
>> >
>> > But if you want to go it alone good luck =D
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Kristof
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/2/4 George <g@8vue.com>:
>> >
>> >> Yeah, Addi's hit on the important point of time consumption. That's why
>> >> I was thinking it's important to 'use' the community as much as
>> >> possible, allowing it to add new videos (trusted members though) to
>> >> allow the site to grow.
>> >>
>> >> Addi's also hit upon something I didn't think about, and that was the
>> >> forking of the comments for each video. Good point - thanks! maybe it
>> >> would be better to leave it off for the resources. or, someway to track
>> >> the comments on the original site...
>> >>
>> >> Defining a clear set of rules for QC would be difficult, I would assume
>> >> as we have different learning styles, some prefer visual, audio, or
>> >> kineasthetic means of learning, we may favour different explanations of
>> >> a question depending on these styles. So, it may be good to have
>> >> different persons 'reviewing'. That way, if users find they favour one
>> >> particular style, they can look at that particular reviewer for videos.
>> >>
>> >> After spending 5 hours producing a video which explains (badly) how to
>> >> create a recipe cck node type, a video producer could be pissed off
>> >> with
>> >> it being rejected, so maybe to allieviate this, implement a
>> >> gold/silver/bronze rating to 'shut them up' and to not put them off for
>> >> the future? they could in 3 months time be producing better vids, which
>> >> they'd be feeding directly to the site.
>> >>
>> >> I think a bookmark site is useless for research / help. With 200
>> >> gabazillion bookmarks, and seeing 4,999 'resources' tagged under cck
>> >> wouldn't turn me on.
>> >>
>> >> in summary, a one-size-fits-all site is prolly not going to be
>> >> effective, a traditional user-voted content site will be at risk of
>> >> being manipulated, so it's finding a happy medium between these two.
>> >> Also, i need to prevent putting people off from submitting resources to
>> >> the site - so constructive criticism should be given where necessary.
>> >>
>> >> On paper it could be a lot of things, so i'm going to try and start
>> >> with
>> >> the core goal, and hopefully work outwards!
>> >>
>> >> Any other ideas/suggestions?
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>> >>
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