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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, other certificates
From: "ROZA, Ariel" <Ariel.ROZA () LA ! LOGICALIS ! COM>
Date: 2018-10-23 15:51:39
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My main issue is not about the deletion process, but about the purpose and usefulness \
of each of those certificates. Being able to judge if it is good to delete or not \
certain certificates (even when expired).
I have this guide:
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/unified-communications/unified-communications-manager-callmanager/200199-CUCM-Certificate-Regeneration-Renewal-Pr.htm
that gives a description of the purpose of each store, but it does not give specifics \
on why is there a particular certificate in a store. Ie. Why is there SERVER2.DER in \
the phone-vpn-trust store? Is this expected? Does a phone contact SERVER2 while using \
the Phone VPN? Is there by default, or someone added, even by mistake?
And the expired certs that I have are not some that are renewable. All of them are in \
-trust stores.
So I am quite puzzled about them.
De: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] En nombre de James \
Andrewartha Enviado el: martes, 23 de octubre de 2018 12:39 a.m.
Para: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Asunto: Re: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, \
other certificates
And if you have any problems deleting them (I had one that just would not go away and \
gave me alarms for years), just call TAC and they'll take you through the SQL to kill \
them permanently.
On 23/10/18 03:08, NateCCIE wrote:
The expired certs will throw alarms even if they have been superseded by newer certs.
So during a maintenance window, renew anything that is expired, and just delete all \
the old ones. The newer versions of cucm make this easier by being able to sort by \
expiration date.
-Nate
From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net><mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> \
On Behalf Of ROZA, Ariel
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:52 AM
To: cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>) \
<cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, other \
certificates
Hi, guys!
I have a customer that is receiving alarms over some expired certificates, and I \
would like to know which is the best way to handle them. The certs are loaded in \
SERVER1 and all named SERVER2.der, except the CAPF ones. <servername>.der in \
phone-vpn-trust. <servername> .der in phone-trust
<servername>.der in phone-SAST-trust
<servername>.der in phone-CTL-trust
And several CAPF-xxxxxx.der in Callmanager-trust
So far I have dealt with renewing Callmanager, TFTP and TVS cert, but I always kept \
clear from those other certs Shoud I delete them, shoud I keep them, even as they are \
expired and throwing alarms?
Regards.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" \
style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My main issue is not about the \
deletion process, but about the purpose and usefulness of each of those certificates. \
Being able to judge if it is good to delete or not certain certificates (even when \
expired).<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" \
style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" \
style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I have this guide:<br> <a \
href="https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/unified-communications/unified-commun \
ications-manager-callmanager/200199-CUCM-Certificate-Regeneration-Renewal-Pr.htm">http \
s://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/unified-communications/unified-communications-m \
anager-callmanager/200199-CUCM-Certificate-Regeneration-Renewal-Pr.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" \
style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" \
style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">that gives a description of the \
purpose of each store, but it does not give specifics on why is there a particular \
certificate in a store. Ie. Why is there SERVER2.DER in the phone-vpn-trust \
store? Is this expected? Does a phone contact SERVER2 while using the Phone VPN? Is \
there by default, or someone added, even by mistake?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" \
style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" \
style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And the expired certs that I have \
are not some that are renewable. All of them are in –trust \
stores.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" \
style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" \
style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So I am quite puzzled about \
them.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" \
style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" \
style="color:windowtext">De:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext"> \
cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>En nombre de </b>James \
Andrewartha<br> <b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 23 de octubre de </span><span lang="ES" \
style="color:windowtext">2018 12:39 a.m.<br> <b>Para:</b> \
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br> <b>Asunto:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] How to handle expired \
Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, other certificates<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">And if you have any problems deleting them (I had one that just \
would not go away and gave me alarms for years), just call TAC and they'll take you \
through the SQL to kill them permanently.<br> <br>
On 23/10/18 03:08, NateCCIE wrote:<span \
style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal">The expired certs will throw alarms even if they have been \
superseded by newer certs.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So during a maintenance window, renew anything that is expired, \
and just delete all the old ones. The newer versions of cucm make this easier \
by being able to sort by expiration date.<o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">-Nate<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> cisco-voip <a \
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"> \
<cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>ROZA, Ariel<br> \
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 22, 2018 11:52 AM<br> <b>To:</b> cisco-voip (<a \
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>) <a \
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><cisco-voip@puck.nether.net></a><br> \
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] How to handle expired Phone-VPN-trust, phone-SAST-trust, \
other certificates<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi, guys!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have a customer that is receiving \
alarms over some expired certificates, and I would like to know which is the best way \
to handle them.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="color:#1F497D">The certs are loaded in SERVER1 and all named SERVER2.der, \
except the CAPF ones.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="color:#1F497D"><servername>.der in phone-vpn-trust. \
</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="color:#1F497D"><servername> .der in phone-trust</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><servername>.der in \
phone-SAST-trust</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="color:#1F497D"><servername>.der in phone-CTL-trust</span><o:p></o:p></p> \
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">And several CAPF-xxxxxx.der in \
Callmanager-trust</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="color:#1F497D">So far I have dealt with renewing Callmanager, TFTP and TVS \
cert, but I always kept clear from those other certs</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shoud I delete them, shoud I keep them, \
even as they are expired and throwing alarms?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#E41E26"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#E41E26">Ariel \
Roza</span></b><span \
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</span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3F4243">Collaboration \
Support Engineer </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3F4243">t: \
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<pre>James Andrewartha<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Network & Projects Engineer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Christ Church Grammar School<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Claremont, Western Australia<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Ph. (08) 9442 1757<o:p></o:p></pre>
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