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List:       blackicedefender-general
Subject:    Re:  BID not working (Suggestions, Juancho?)
From:       "Stephen R. Day" srday
Date:       2000-04-27 0:50:57
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I'm about out of ideas (for now), Sally.  I'm sorry nothing we've 
suggested seems to help.  If I think of anything else, I'll post it 
for you.  Good luck with your Tech Support request...


--- In bidgeneral@egroups.com, littlerockit wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I ran ShieldsUP again, with same result - NetBIOS port working and 
no 
> BID report.
> 
> I uninstalled DIB and reinstalled, ran ShieldsUP again with EXACT 
> same results.  DIB still shows no intruders or activity (still 
shows 
> old history with all activity stopping 4/7, even though I did the 
> uninstall using BlackIce utility.
> 
> I appreciate all your help, but so far no luck.  I emailed Support 
> back when this started and haven't yet received a response.
> 
> -sally
> 
> From: Stephen R. Day  srday  
> Date: Wed Apr 26, 2000 3:04am  
> Subject: Re: DIB Not Working  
> 
> 
> 
> Assuming you are CERTAIN Shields UP! scanned YOUR system, no BID 
> alerts and an open NetBIOS port tell me BID is NOT protecting your 
> system.  To ensure your system is the one being scanned, have you 
> used the Shields UP! IP Agent 
(https://grc.com/files/IP_Agent.exe)?  
> If not, try that BEFORE continuing with my recommendations.
> 
> If, after using the IP Agent, you still get no BID alerts and 
Shields 
> UP! reports an open NetBIOS port, I suggest the "shotgun" approach 
to 
> things:  Try uninstalling and re-installing BID.  Simply 
uninstalling 
> via your Control Panel will probably not be sufficient.  The 
BlackICE 
> FAQ (http://www.networkice.com/Support/blackice_faq.htm) recommends 
> using the "BlackICE Agent Remove" utility 
> (http://www.networkice.com/Download/updatebiremove.htm).  Once 
you've 
> COMPLETELY removed BID, re-install it and then run a Shields UP! 
scan 
> against your system.  Let us know what happens...
> 
> 
> --- In bidgeneral@egroups.com, littlerockit wrote:
> > Hi Patrick, Rob & Stephen
> > 
> > 1.  Control-Alt-Delete displays both BlackIce and Blackd
> > 2.  I did use the ShieldsUp probe.  The only open port was 
> NetBios.  
> > No flashing icon.
> > 3.  My protection level is set at Cautious.  I have not changed 
any 
> > of the settings since installation.
> > 4.  On an (I assume) unrelated note, my link to the BID User's 
> Guide 
> > no longer works.
> > 
> > Any other ideas?  I appreciate your help
> > 
> > -Sally
> > 
> > P.S.  Is there a way to respond to a post without copying & 
pasting 
> > the previous posts?
> > 
> > From: Patrick Jackson  jaxon  
> > Date: Tue Apr 25, 2000 4:46pm  
> > Subject: Re: Re: DIB not working  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Sally,
> > 
> > With the control, alt, delete display did you see an entry called 
> > BlackIce
> > and a separate entry called blackd on another line?  Both are 
> > required to be
> > running to have all functions, but the most important is blackd.
> > 
> > If you email me [jaxon]  your IP address I will 'ping' you 
to 
> see
> > if your BID responds.  I will understand if you don't want to.  
You 
> > can go
> > to grc.com and use Steve Gibson's free ShieldsUp probe of 10 of 
> your 
> > ports.
> > This should be guaranteed to produce BID intercepts of the 
> scan/probe
> > generated by his website.  It also gives you a decent indication 
of 
> > your
> > status.  Then post back the outcome one way or the other.
> > 
> > Patrick
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: littlerockit
> > To: bidgeneral@egroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 7:28 AM
> > Subject: [bidgeneral] Re: DIB not working
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi Patrick
> > >
> > > Yes, DIB is running on the task manager.  Still no flashing 
icon 
> tho
> > > and no attacks listed.
> > >
> > > Sally
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Patrick Jackson  jaxon
> > > Date: Tue Apr 25, 2000 2:35am
> > > Subject: Re: DIB not working
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Sally,
> > >
> > > From your desktop [assuming windows 9x] press control-alt-del 
one
> > > time and
> > > look in the displayed list for blackd.  If there BID is running 
> and
> > > one
> > > needs to look into configuration for the bogeyman.  First make 
> sure
> > > it is
> > > running though.  Then repost.  Good luck!
> > >
> > > PJ
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: littlerockit
> > > To: bidgeneral@egroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 10:24 PM
> > > Subject: [bidgeneral] DIB not working
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks for your help.  I did run some of the tests and found 
> only
> > > the
> > > > Net Bios port open.  But my DIB icon still does not flash, 
and 
> > when
> > > I
> > > > open it it does not show any attacks, even the test ones.  It 
> > shows
> > > > no activity since 4/7.  Why is it not recording the history 
any
> > > > longer?
> > > >
> > > > Sally L.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Stephen R. Day  srday
> > > > Date: Mon Apr 24, 2000 1:52am
> > > > Subject: Re: DIB not working
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Network ICE Knowledge Base article 26
> > > > (http://advice.networkice.com/Advice/Support/KB/q000026/)
> > > > explains "How can I scan myself from across the Internet?"  
> This 
> > is
> > > > probably the best way to determine whether BID is functioning
> > > > correctly.
> > > >
> > > > You can also check the Task Manager (Ctl+Alt+Del) to ensure
> > > > that "Blackd" and "Blackice" are running.  The important one
> > > > is "Blackd" because it is the actual intrusion detection and
> > > > protection "engine".  "Blackice" is the Graphic User 
Interface 
> > (GUI)
> > > > through which you configure the program.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In bidgeneral@egroups.com, littlerockit wrote:
> > > > > I installed DIB on March 25 and received several attacks 
> every 
> > day
> > > > > until April 7.  Since then I have not had a single attack.  
> Is 
> > DIB
> > > > > working?  Checking the task bar was mentioned on a previous 
> > post,
> > > > but
> > > > > I am unsure where that is or how to check it.

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