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Subject:    Re: [Bacula-devel] An special day for honoring someone who has done a extremely nice job in the open
From:       egoitz--- via Bacula-devel <bacula-devel () lists ! sourceforge ! net>
Date:       2022-03-28 15:56:27
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Hi Kern!!!! 

I didn't see your email!!!. How could it be!. I'm so sorry for it!!. I'm
really busy these days..... I answer below, between the lines in bold
blue for instance, for a more clear and clean understanding of my
answers :)

El 2022-03-24 17:55, Kern Sibbald escribió:

> Hello Egoitz,
> 
> Thanks for your very kind email with birthday wishes.  I am really honored that you \
> call me a mentor, thanks.  I have always done my best to produce a high end backup \
> product (though it is a bit complicated) that is robust and reliable with all the \
> features needed by the community as well as small enterprises.  Though it is \
> sometimes hard, I feel that we succeeded in creating a friendly and helpful email \
> list.  
> IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT CONSIDER YOU A MENTOR!!. YOU ARE THE CREATOR OF \
> BACULA KERN!!. YOU REALLY SUCCEEDED A LOT YES :) :) 
> Thanks for using Bacula and for your email. 
> 
> IT IS THE LESS I CAN DO AND KNOWING IS YOU BIRTHDAY!!
> 
> Concerning your plugin:  in general we accept all contributions that are useful, \
> follow our current design conditions (in the Developers document) and for which we \
> have a signed CAA (copyright assignment agreement).  This agreement allows Bacula \
> Systems to use the code, but even more important for me, it protect all Bacula \
> users from someone introducing code then claiming we are using his proprietary code \
> (this is what Bareos attempted to do to Bacula). I can remember only on case where \
> we we not able to use the code, and that was code developed by UKFast (ISP) and \
> released by the developer without permission.  We we never able to get permission \
> to use the code from UKFast.  This code implemented quotas.  Instead of integrating \
> unauthorized code, we wrote our own simpler and more efficient quota code.  Note, \
> Bareos integrated the unauthorized code, so perhaps one day their users may be \
> exposed to license problems.  
> INCREDIBLE... REALLY THE PROBLEMS WITH BAREOS... IT'S A PITTY..... 
> 
> I SEE... I NORMALLY OFFER THE CODE AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOADING AND WITH BSD \
> LICENSE... I DON'T MIND PEOPLE TO USE MY CODE IF IT HELPS IMPROVING SOMETHING... \
> FOR ME IT'S ALL FINE!!  
> If you finish your code, and you are willing to submit a CAA, then I recommend that \
> you submit it to Bacula (Now that I am retired, Eric decides exactly what is \
> integrated and what is not).   In my opinion, it would be a very nice addition.  
> I'M WORKING ON :) :) AND CONVINCING MY BOSS TO GIVE DEVEL HOURS :) :)
> 
> I am very pleased that Bacula Systems has agreed to look after maintaining the \
> community version and continue adding the Bacula Systems new features.  This means \
> that Bacula will be getting better and better and continue to adapt to the ever \
> changing IT backup/restore needs.  
> THE ONE PLEASED WITH YOUR ANSWER IS ME KERN. IT'S A GREAT HONOR FOR ME... YOU TO \
> HAVE ANSWERED TO MY EMAIL :) :) REALLY....  
> Thank you very much for recognizing my contributions, and above all thank you for \
> using Bacula and developing code for it.  I wish you all the best in the future.  
> SAME FOR YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR SUCH A SUCCESSS CAREER!!!. I WISH I WOULD HAD \
> THE SAME SUCCESS AS THE HALF OF YOU :) :) 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> BEST REGARDS :) :)
> Kern
> (Currently in Puerto Rico until May then back to Barcelona).
> I'M FROM BILBAO!!! SLIGHTLY FAR FROM HERE ! :) 
> 
> On 3/21/2022 4:40 AM, egoitz@ramattack.net wrote: 
> 
> > Good morning people :)
> > 
> > Today is a special day. Is the birthday of someone now deservedly retired. This \
> > person is Kern Sibbald. I had the opportunity of knowing about his birthday, \
> > through one nice person in this mailing lists. Kern is much more than a nice \
> > codder, who has write a extremely important tool which is the base of most of our \
> > backups. At least for me is one of my mentors, one of the persons from which I \
> > would like to learn because it has done a nice job with Bacula. For all these \
> > reasons, I wanted to say "thank you so much Kern and have an extremely happy \
> > birthday!!". 
> > I wanted too, for making the most of this lines, to ask a little gift to Kern :) \
> > :). I'm working as some of you know, in building a Bacula pluggin for creating an \
> > open source delta encoding plugin for the fd. It would be hugely nice :) :) (as \
> > someone told me too in this list) if official Delta plugin of Bacula, could be \
> > distributed with the Community source of Bacula. I'll go on writting my own \
> > plugin anyway, because I wanted to learn how it works and for being able to \
> > customize some of the backups I do here, but it would be really nice to have the \
> > Delta plugin as part of the Community edition of this nice piece of software. I \
> > had to try :) :) . 
> > Anyway and independently of what Kern decides about the gift I have asked :) :) \
> > (I had to try it... mainly after someone encouraged asking it :) :) ), I wanted \
> > to emphasize my recognition about Kern's person, due to all his contributions to \
> > the open source world. These ideas, anyway, would never change in my mind about \
> > you. 
> > So for ending this email, I think there are not more appropiate words for being \
> > remarked as the following ones : "Kern, Thank you so much". 
> > Cheers :)


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/></head><body style='font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif'> <p>Hi \
Kern!!!!</p> <p><br /></p>
<p>I didn't see your email!!!. How could it be!. I'm so sorry for it!!. I'm really \
busy these days..... I answer below, between the lines in bold blue for instance, for \
a more clear and clean understanding of my answers :)</p> <div>&nbsp;</div>
<p><br /></p>
<p>El 2022-03-24 17:55, Kern Sibbald escribi&oacute;:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; \
margin: 0"><!-- html ignored --><!-- head ignored --><!-- meta ignored --> <div \
class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: monospace"><br /> <span \
style="white-space: nowrap;">Hello&nbsp;Egoitz,</span><br /> <br /> Thanks for your \
very kind email with birthday wishes.&nbsp; I am really honored that you call me a \
mentor, thanks.&nbsp; I have always done my best to produce a high end backup product \
(though it is a bit complicated) that is robust and reliable with all the features \
needed by the community as well as small enterprises.&nbsp; Though it is sometimes \
hard, I feel that we succeeded in creating a friendly and helpful email list.</div> \
<div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: monospace">&nbsp;</div> \
<div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: monospace"><strong><span \
style="color: #000080;">It would be impossible to not consider you a mentor!!. You \
are the creator of Bacula Kern!!. You really succeeded a lot yes :) \
:)</span></strong><br /> <br /> <span style="white-space: \
nowrap;">Thanks&nbsp;for&nbsp;using&nbsp;Bacula&nbsp;and&nbsp;for&nbsp;your&nbsp;email.</span></div>
 <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: monospace">&nbsp;</div>
<div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: monospace"><span \
style="color: #000080;"><strong>It is the less I can do and knowing is you \
birthday!!</strong></span><br /> <br /> Concerning your plugin:&nbsp; in general we \
accept all contributions that are useful, follow our current design conditions (in \
the Developers document) and for which we have a signed CAA (copyright assignment \
agreement).&nbsp; This agreement allows Bacula Systems to use the code, but even more \
important for me, it protect all Bacula users from someone introducing code then \
claiming we are using his proprietary code (this is what Bareos attempted to do to \
Bacula). I can remember only on case where we we not able to use the code, and that \
was code developed by UKFast (ISP) and released by the developer without \
permission.&nbsp; We we never able to get permission to use the code from \
UKFast.&nbsp; This code implemented quotas.&nbsp; Instead of integrating unauthorized \
code, we wrote our own simpler and more efficient quota code.&nbsp; Note, Bareos \
integrated the unauthorized code, so perhaps one day their users may be exposed to \
license problems.</div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: \
monospace">&nbsp;</div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: \
monospace"><strong><span style="color: #000080;">Incredible... really the problems \
with Bareos... it's a pitty.....</span></strong></div> <div class="pre" \
style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: monospace">&nbsp;</div> <div class="pre" \
style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: monospace"><strong><span style="color: \
#000080;">I see... I normally offer the code available for downloading and with BSD \
license... I don't mind people to use my code if it helps improving something... for \
me it's all fine!!</span></strong></div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: \
0; font-family: monospace"><br /> If you finish your code, and you are willing to \
submit a CAA, then I recommend that you submit it to Bacula (Now that I am retired, \
Eric decides exactly what is integrated and what is not).&nbsp;&nbsp; In my opinion, \
it would be a very nice addition.</div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: \
0; font-family: monospace">&nbsp;</div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: \
0; font-family: monospace"><strong><span style="color: #000080;">I'm working on :) :) \
and convincing my boss to give devel hours :) :)</span></strong><br /> <br /> I am \
very pleased that Bacula Systems has agreed to look after maintaining the community \
version and continue adding the Bacula Systems new features.&nbsp; This means that \
Bacula will be getting better and better and continue to adapt to the ever changing \
IT backup/restore needs.</div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; \
font-family: monospace">&nbsp;</div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; \
font-family: monospace"><strong><span style="color: #000080;">The one pleased with \
your answer is me Kern. It's a great honor for me... you to have answered to my email \
:) :) really....</span></strong></div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; \
font-family: monospace"><br /> Thank you very much for recognizing my contributions, \
and above all thank you for using Bacula and developing code for it.&nbsp; I wish you \
all the best in the future.</div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; \
font-family: monospace">&nbsp;</div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; \
font-family: monospace"><strong><span style="color: #000080;">Same for you and \
congratulations for such a successs career!!!. I wish I would had the same success as \
the half of you :) :)</span></strong><br /> <br /> <span style="white-space: \
nowrap;">Kind&nbsp;regards,</span></div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: \
0; font-family: monospace">&nbsp;</div> <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: \
0; font-family: monospace"><strong><span style="color: #000080;">Best regards :) \
:)</span></strong><br /> Kern<br /> <span style="white-space: \
nowrap;">(Currently&nbsp;in&nbsp;Puerto&nbsp;Rico&nbsp;until&nbsp;May&nbsp;then&nbsp;back&nbsp;to&nbsp;Barcelona).</span><br \
/><strong><span style="color: #000080;"> I'm from Bilbao!!! slightly far from here ! \
:) </span></strong><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="white-space: \
nowrap;">On&nbsp;3/21/2022&nbsp;4:40&nbsp;AM,&nbsp;<a \
href="mailto:egoitz@ramattack.net">egoitz@ramattack.net</a>&nbsp;wrote:</span> \
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; \
margin: 0"><br /> <span style="white-space: \
nowrap;">Good&nbsp;morning&nbsp;people&nbsp;:)</span><br /> <br /> <br /> Today is a \
special day. Is the birthday of someone now deservedly retired. This person is Kern \
Sibbald. I had the opportunity of knowing about his birthday, through one nice person \
in this mailing lists. Kern is much more than a nice codder, who has write a \
extremely important tool which is the base of most of our backups. At least for me is \
one of my mentors, one of the persons from which I would like to learn because it has \
done a nice job with Bacula. For all these reasons, I wanted to say "thank you so \
much Kern and have an extremely happy birthday!!".<br /> <br /> I wanted too, for \
making the most of this lines, to ask a little gift to Kern :) :). I'm working as \
some of you know, in building a Bacula pluggin for creating an open source delta \
encoding plugin for the fd. It would be hugely nice :) :) (as someone told me too in \
this list) if official Delta plugin of Bacula, could be distributed with the \
Community source of Bacula. I'll go on writting my own plugin anyway, because I \
wanted to learn how it works and for being able to customize some of the backups I do \
here, but it would be really nice to have the Delta plugin as part of the Community \
edition of this nice piece of software. I had to try :) :) .<br /> <br /> Anyway and \
independently of what Kern decides about the gift I have asked :) :) (I had to try \
it... mainly after someone encouraged asking it :) :) ), I wanted to emphasize my \
recognition about Kern's person, due to all his contributions to the open source \
world. These ideas, anyway, would never change in my mind about you.<br /> <br /> So \
for ending this email, I think there are not more appropiate words for being remarked \
as the following ones : "Kern, Thank you so much".<br /> <br /> <br /> <span \
style="white-space: nowrap;">Cheers&nbsp;:)</span><br /> </blockquote> </div>
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