Hello John, thanks for your suggestion, On 13-Aug-98 JOHN COOK wrote: > > If you do not have the password for it, log it as 'root', then type > 'passwd postgres' and enter a new password. Log out and log back in as > postgres. Then "createuser username". You should be able to log out, root: su - postgres [postgres@petit pgsql]$ createuser wuebben Connection to database 'template1' failed. FATAL 1: SetUserId: user "postgres" is not in "pg_shadow" createuser: database access failed. [postgres@petit pgsql]$ but it still doesn't work. How do I get anyone into pg_shadow? Bernd -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernd Johannes Wuebben wuebben@kde.org wuebben@math.cornell.edu wuebben@acm.org --------------------------------------------------------------------