>ther the development > process currently makes it difficult to contribute. I'm seeing this now from a > quite different perspective as when I had more time for KWin. > It has always been a trade-off. Having it so one writes code in ECM and it doesn't get properly tested in real use by developers till frameworks releases also sucks. I think this has been a particularly turbulent week for kwin, which isn't typical. I'm surprised the Neon experience hasn't really worked out for Neon's main goal. I think that's the real issue and not really a kwin specific one. > If I would try to track everything using kdesrc-build I would even have less time for hacking I'm not sure how true that is. There's a massive up-front setup cost, but once that's done, it doesn't take much hand holding. David > Martin > >