2009/2/10 Janne Ojaniemi : > Instead of using a separate dialog-box (even if it was integrated one, like > sheets is MacOS), how about presenting the dialog-box as part of the "master > window"? The windows could resize a bit, providing a space for the > dialog-box between the titlebar and the toolbar (for example). It would not > obscure the content at all, and once the user dismisses the dialog, the > space is re-claimed for the app. Of course it would have to be made obvious > to the user, so that he notices it. I admit to not really being a fan of this. I like the mac approach because it also prevents confusion: once you move a modal window away from its "master" the association between the two is weakenned - even where greying and other effects are used on the master. I have found myself (for example) wondering why an app won't respond when the only reason is that it has a file dialogue open that I've moved. I admit however to often wanting to peek back at the application under the modal window and this is a pain on mac because to means closing the window then reopening - an action that often looses state like the current directory / modified values. So there is an opportunity to do things differently here: perhaps some control that allows you to see through (and click through for the purpose of selecting and copying text for example) the modal window to the application underneath; perhaps rather than transparency the modal window could be "lifted" in 3D (like the bonnet of a car) or pulled up and down like a blind (shading); perhaps it should be possible to move a modal window but have it snap back to position when the mouse button is released or after a certain "idle" time has passed. I think something like this would better match the work-flow associated with a modal window. Just my 2c. _______________________________________________ kwin mailing list kwin@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kwin