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List:       koffice-devel
Subject:    Re: The State of Kivio
From:       Thorsten Zachmann <t.zachmann () zagge ! de>
Date:       2009-08-22 4:42:00
Message-ID: 200908220642.00957.t.zachmann () zagge ! de
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Hello Andrew,

On Sat August 22 2009, Andrew Dorrell wrote:
> On Saturday 22 August 2009 1:45:20 am Sven Langkamp wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Andrew Dorrell
>
> <andrew.dorrell@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > Could slangkamp make email contact with me please?  I might be able to
> > > make some contributions to kivio.
> >
> > Thanks for your interest in constributing. Do you have anything special
> > that interests you?
> > Don't hesitate to ask on the mailing list or on #koffice channel on
> > freenode IRC if you need help.
> > I'm looking forward to that.
>
> Hi Sven,
>
> Good to hear from you.  I'm afraid IRC is one of theose things I just
> haven't worked out yet.  Plus my GMT+10 timezone might be an issue... 
> Anyway it is more that I have been looking for something that I can
> contribute usefully to with a relatively small time allocation (I have a
> job and family).  And I feel Koffice is one of theose projects that is
> important but under-resourced.

Help is very much appreciated. If you are up late in the evening you might 
find me available on IRC (Zagge).

>
> I'm fine with C++, svn (I already have a checkout and local build of
> koffice) but am really not sure how most KDE development is approached and
> would appreciate some pointers and guiding around the existing code.  I do
> use visio every so often so am a little familiar with software like kivio,
> and find most of it annoying (draw capabilities of MS offics and OOO are
> woeful).

Kivio as an application is very small as it shares most of its code with 
koffice. One big part of this is the sharing of page handling in 
libs/kopageapp. This shares common code between page based applications. At 
the moment this is Kivio and KPresenter.

>
> I was thinking I might be best starting by playing with the existing kivio
> and making a list of what I found to be the most glaring issues... however
> when I did this the biggest issues seemed to be how the dockers kept
> jumping around in and sizing unpredicatably - not a kivio specific issue I
> susspect ;-).
>
> If I was to start on stencil support where would I start in the code?  What
> existing code is there (from previous versions)?

if I'm not mistaken Peter did work on that some time before. However I can't 
find it at the moment in the UI. I think the code is in 
plugins/dockers/shapecollection. Maybe it got deactivated or it will only show 
up if there are actual collections. 

Maybe Peter can give you some more details about that.

I think there is also a student project planed to improve kivio that has 
stencil support on its list. Maybe Kevin can tell you what is on its list so 
you don't end up working on the same stuff.

Have a nice weekend,

Thorsten
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