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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Trash, Delete, Shred
From:       David Hugh-Jones <hughjonesd () yahoo ! co ! uk>
Date:       2003-06-28 23:05:40
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On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 15:15, Jan Schumacher wrote:
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> I understand that large menus might be cumbersome, but I personally was 
> confused, when the shred action was removed from the context menu. I thought 
> it had been removed from konqueror and only found its shortcut by accident. 
> 

well, it sounds as if this action can't really do what it claims. (does
someone want to elaborate on this?) if so, then maybe we should really
remove it completely.

> Perhaps you could change the name of the menuitem depending on the 
> configuration? That way "Delete" will mean delete, and "Shred" will mean 
> shred, rather than different things depending on configuration.

yes - we are definitely going to have the right word displayed depending
on the configuration. (Whether actual "Kactions" are kept separate or
merged is an implementation detail.)



> 
> > I have in mind something like this:
> >
> > -- Deleting local files --
> > (o) move to trash
> > ( ) delete
> >    [x] shred after delete [only enabled when delete from hd is selected]
> >
> > [x] confirm before deleting files
> >
> > Remote files will be deleted without moving to the trash, even if move
> > to trash is selected.
> >
> > Comments would be welcome. One point to note is whether shift+DEL should
> > do pure delete, ctrl+DEL do shred etc. I am against that because I think
> > that it is probably rather easy to do it by accident. You have "move to
> > trash" on and "confirm" off; you mean to hit DEL and accidentally hit
> > shift+DEL: then your files are really deleted without confirmation. But
> > if a lot of people use this feature, we could keep it and auto-enable
> > confirmations.
> 
> Actually, I use both "Delete" and "Move to Trash" often, so I would miss their 
> individual shortcuts. Right now I am being warned, if I want to delete, but 
> not when moving a file. I would miss that feature if there was only a global 
> setting for all of them.
> 
> I wonder if it would make sense to make (context) menus configurable like 
> toolbars. That way the default could have very few commands, but advanced 
> users can taylor them to their liking. Then again, maybe it's overkill.
> 
> Regards
> Jan
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