From kde-release-team Wed Apr 30 08:41:30 2014 From: Raymond Wooninck Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 08:41:30 +0000 To: kde-release-team Subject: Fwd: Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle Message-Id: <10776217.hOUefhXnZP () hqvmt4xx20 ! eur ! cchbc ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-release-team&m=139884729716747 On Wednesday 30 April 2014 10:17:23 Sune Vuorela wrote: > On Tuesday 29 April 2014 23:20:21 Lisandro Dami=E1n Nicanor P=E9rez Meyer= wrote: > > The result will be that we will need to freeze at some point and do our > > best to keep up with patches for stable releases. Or maybe even drop KF5 > > for stable releases :-/ > = > While I don't share the fatalistic point of Lisandro, I do agree that it > brings potential problems. I do also expect a Debian to ship with a very > patched-up set of KF5 packages. For openSUSE it will definitely bring problems as that we wouldn't be able = to = release any maintenance updates anymore for the KDE Desktop with this Relea= se = Cycle. As Sune indicated, if KF5 is updated then the other components like = Plasma-Next and the Applications needs to be rebuild. This is not the curre= nt = setup of the openSUSE maintenance process, nor will this change just for KF= 5. = This means that the only way for us is to start back-porting the bugfixes a= nd = release those as maintenance updates in order to provide a stable experienc= e = for our users. = If the other components would select a similar Release Cycle, then this wou= ld = mean that the non-rolling distro's have to focus on a constant back-porting= of = bug-fixes and we would not provide our users with newer functionality. Thi= s = would eliminate the main goal that this Release Cycle is targeting (To = introduce new functionality gradually) as that the main distributions would = skip several KF5 releases before a new distribution version is released to = the = users. = Seeing it more black and white, then indeed distributions might want to mak= e = the choice whether or not to include the KDE Desktop in their stable = distributions releases and to find another way to provide a different way f= or = users to install it and having the rolling releases there. But as indicate= d = in other emails, is this really the experience we want to give to our users= ? = Regards Raymond openSUSE KDE Community Packaging Team ----------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team